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Why do some democrats think single payor is a bad approach compared to ACA?
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:12 pm
Lots of establishment Dems seem to not be accepting warren's and Bernie's call for the party endorsing single payer as opposed to fixing and mantaining the ACA.
Politically, it wouldn't be difficult to sell it: just say it will be funded by taxes on rich and businesses and hype the savings on no premiums or deductibles.
2016 showed partly that people like bold color ideas rather than pastel wonky convoluted Policy talk.
What do establishment Dems fear?
Politically, it wouldn't be difficult to sell it: just say it will be funded by taxes on rich and businesses and hype the savings on no premiums or deductibles.
2016 showed partly that people like bold color ideas rather than pastel wonky convoluted Policy talk.
What do establishment Dems fear?
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Their campaign contributions
What do establishment Dems fear?
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No single payer will happen for the same reason repubs won't repeal Obamacare.
Too many make bank from Obamacare.
Too many make bank from Obamacare.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because many Democrats are still capitalists and believe that the Democratic Party is supposed to be the party of a kindler gentler capitalism. As Hillary and Nancy said they are capitalists.
Warren and Bernie are pushing the party to the left and eventually the Dems will move to the left and embrace single payor.
Warren and Bernie are pushing the party to the left and eventually the Dems will move to the left and embrace single payor.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What do establishment Dems fear?
The CBO scoring.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Single payor is the only way out of our current health care mess. If Trump can make it happen, I may be going in the direction of the dark side.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Lots of establishment Dems seem to not be accepting warren's and Bernie's call for the party endorsing single payer as opposed to fixing and mantaining the ACA.
Did you see the estimated costs for CA's universal coverage bill?
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Politically, it wouldn't be difficult to sell it: just say it will be funded by taxes on rich and businesses and hype the savings on no premiums or deductibles.
100 years of attempts say you are wrong.
Names that attempted or were highly sympathetic to some form of single payer:
- Teddy Roosevelt
- FDR
-Truman
-JFK
-LBJ
-Clinton
All failed.
other then that, believe it or not, people within party's do occasionally have different beliefs on what is the best path forward.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
They may fear the backlash from the working class who still vote democrat . Plus they can't get it passed now because the republicans will never allow it . Obamacare is part of the reason Trump won the election.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Putting commercial health insurers out of business, telling every person on employer-based coverage they have to give up their current insurance, and the prospect of a large new tax is a helluva combo. ACA was a more practical option.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Lots of establishment Dems seem to not be accepting warren's and Bernie's call for the party endorsing single payer as opposed to fixing and mantaining the ACA.
it would be complex and without cooperation difficult to get off the ground.
COMMIE!! WHERE ARE MY PROFITS??
we know you are not interested in really considering alternatives to profiteering by big pharma and won't consider free medical school either.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:they're politically motivated idiots. im pretty conservative and i would rather have single player than ACA.
Why do some democrats think single payor is a bad approach compared to ACA?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 5:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Lots of establishment Dems seem to not be accepting warren's and Bernie's call for the party endorsing single payer as opposed to fixing and mantaining the ACA.
Because Democrats accept campaign contributions from insurance companies too. They get fricked on a single payer plan. And those greedy bastards deserve it, imo. I'd have at least 1 Uncle alive if he hasn't gotten screwed by an HMO. But they denied his transplant and died instead.
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