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re: John Oliver goes after anti-vaxxers in his most recent episode (video)

Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:01 am to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:01 am to
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Let's pretend they are correct and vaccines are linked to autism. You know what not getting vaccinated is linked to? Kids fricking dying.



I'd be curious to see stats on the death rate of unvaccinated vs vaccinated kids due to diseases that there are vaccines for. The Amish is a huge group that all live close together and would be cheap and easy to study. Would also like to see stats on Autism rates for both groups. That would put the debate to bed.

I have to come clean, the flu kills 30,000 Americans/year and I have never been vaccinated.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51700 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:06 am to
So you've never in your life gotten a flu shot ever? Even in adulthood?
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6899 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:22 am to
You can already see the measles and mumps are making a comeback from just the small percentage of anti-vaxers. Imagine what they would be if 300 million stopped vaccinating.

A child who contracts something like The measles has a high likelihood of severe brain damage, and yes possibly death. I know of this firsthand, as my mentally challenged uncle was born with a fully functional brain, but contracted the measles as an infant.

The speculated pros do not outweigh the very real cons
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
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I'd be curious to see stats on the death rate of unvaccinated vs vaccinated kids due to diseases that there are vaccines for. The Amish is a huge group that all live close together and would be cheap and easy to study


They have studies you can look up comparing the Amish. Autistic rates for Amish are virtually nil. Most of these anti vaxxers that spread diseases are refugees. Far more important than vaccines is cleanliness and hygiene, which was the biggest improvement over the 1900s.

Really the problem with vaccines are the other things they put in them like mercury and aluminum as preservatives. Even though mercury was supposed to be removed the companies keep using it. You give your kids a bunch of vaccines (which they give way more to a kid now than ever) then you may end up giving your kid heavy metal poisoning which causes huge cognitive disabilities. Heavy metal poisoning and autism have a lot of the same hallmarks. Vaccines aren't equal, you have to look for ones that aren't loaded with shite if you want to be a responsible parent.
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