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re: Oregon State's Luke Heimlich goes undrafted
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:07 am to Howyouluhdat
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:07 am to Howyouluhdat
For the repeat offense?
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:08 am to Mystery
quote:I haven't argued that at all.
he is rehabilitated or should be forgiven.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:09 am to ForeverEllisHugh
15 for him was 5 years ago. It's not like it was 20 years ago and he's a changed man after serving his prison sentence.
He MOLESTED his 6 year old cousin MANY times and got off almost Scott free. He was allowed to play college baseball (which is a privilege not a right) even tho he was a convicted sexual predator.
If you ask me, he didn't lose something he's worked for all his life. He was wrongly allowed to pursue a dream that should have been dead the second he was found guilty. If you ask me, he should thank his lucky stars that he was allowed to play as long as he did because in reality, he should be rotting away in jail.
He MOLESTED his 6 year old cousin MANY times and got off almost Scott free. He was allowed to play college baseball (which is a privilege not a right) even tho he was a convicted sexual predator.
If you ask me, he didn't lose something he's worked for all his life. He was wrongly allowed to pursue a dream that should have been dead the second he was found guilty. If you ask me, he should thank his lucky stars that he was allowed to play as long as he did because in reality, he should be rotting away in jail.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:10 am to ell_13
quote:
For the repeat offense?
lol yes
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:12 am to Howyouluhdat
So you think the percentage should be lower than 3%?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:18 am to ell_13
quote:
I haven't argued that at all.
And I honestly don't know what you have been saying. I only took offense to that stat being dropped.
It is just silly and tries to minimize the danger he poses to children.
I have zero problem with him being judged on this still.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:42 am to ell_13
quote:
He's a POS. Period. No way around that. But our laws don't dictate that these kinds of people stay locked up forever and, for him, not at all. So if he's going to be a part of society, I'd rather him be able to support himself and get the help/support necessary for that to happen. He's no use homeless and jobless. He's good at baseball. I'm not sure a team will give him a shot now, but if they do, I'm not going to be upset about it.
You say this like it's play baseball or be unemployed. He's not the first person to have their career affected by criminal conduct. Just because baseball is the easiest way for him to be a millionaire doesn't mean he can't do something else to earn a living like everyone else does. I think some are looking at it like he should be able to chase his dreams and it's not fair he can't play baseball if he served his debt to society. 1. Some would say he hasn't served his debt. 2. Life isn't fair. I'd love to be good at a game that somehow people pay millions to do. 3. frick him, he lost his chance for people to feel sorry for him when he molested his 4 year old cousin for 2 years
ETA: Furthermore, when your career path is to be an entertainer, and you rely on the public to want to watch you play, maybe don't be surprised if they don't care to support a convicted child molester with their money. He chose baseball as his path. Maybe he should have rethought that when he started this journey and maybe focused on something that didn't involve a public image component.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:07 am to lsufball19
I didn't mean it that way at all. I mean he's trying to do what he's good at. It's still up to a team to give him a chance and I won't get mad if they do. That's what I said. That's what I mean. Of course he can do other things.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:19 am to ell_13
quote:
So you think the percentage should be lower than 3%?
No it should be higher if they aren't basing it on convictions. The 3% should be youths that are convicted again not re-offend. There's a diff
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:26 am to Howyouluhdat
I know in Louisiana, if you are a sex offender it says it in big writing on a drivers license. Had a guy apply for a job a few years back and I asked for his license to make a copy and saw that. He didn't get the job.
My point in saying all of this, surely Oregon has the same law and people have seen his drivers license. This couldn't have been a big secret that nobody knew about.
My point in saying all of this, surely Oregon has the same law and people have seen his drivers license. This couldn't have been a big secret that nobody knew about.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:28 am to redfieldk717
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:34 am to Elleshoe
quote:
She didn't bring this story to light. You're a fricking idiot.
bullshite motherfricker, she said "he shouldn't be playing baseball
quote:
Except re-register as a sex offender. You're a fricking idiot.
"Re you fricking moron...it means he was registered!
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:36 am to Howyouluhdat
You are so confused.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:38 am to GeeOH
quote:
bullshite motherfricker, she said "he shouldn't be playing baseball
Did she hold a press conference? Isn't she like 11? Not that her feelings are invalid, I'm just not sure the context of her quote.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:38 am to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:
15 for him was 5 years ago. It's not like it was 20 years ago and he's a changed man after serving his prison sentence.
He MOLESTED his 6 year old cousin MANY times and got off almost Scott free. He was allowed to play college baseball (which is a privilege not a right) even tho he was a convicted sexual predator.
If you ask me, he didn't lose something he's worked for all his life. He was wrongly allowed to pursue a dream that should have been dead the second he was found guilty. If you ask me, he should thank his lucky stars that he was allowed to play as long as he did because in reality, he should be rotting away in jail.
We understand that your family tree shows no progress from 15 yrs old to 21, but most do.
Why don't you give us a list of incidents that have happened in the last 5 yrs that show he is the same type of person making negative choices in his actions.
We'll wait
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:41 am to LSUBaseballGod82
quote:
From 1st Round pick to undrafted
Sounds like a 30 for 30
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:44 am to ElroyJetSon
I do. But i would NEVER let anyone have access to her 5 yrs later to rehash this and freshen her memory of the situation.
I'm sure I might have attempted not kill the POS....but yrs later when she is a young girl growing into a lady, use my actions to bring her name back into the spotlight and cause her more harm, is unacceptable
I'm sure I might have attempted not kill the POS....but yrs later when she is a young girl growing into a lady, use my actions to bring her name back into the spotlight and cause her more harm, is unacceptable
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:50 am to Hot Carl
quote:
Did she hold a press conference? Isn't she like 11? Not that her feelings are invalid, I'm just not sure the context of her quote
Not sure....all I'm getting at is she will be as damaged as him by this being constantly rehashed. Especially as a soon to be teen.
I don't get the outcry over his profession. Would it be ok if he were a computer programmer? A stock analyst?
I don't see how her family thinks this is a good idea. I would kick my dad's arse if he let it get out i was abused as an infant.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:53 am to GeeOH
quote:
We understand that your family tree shows no progress from 15 yrs old to 21, but most do.
At the time Oregon State signed him (early enrollment) - Less time had passed between his getting convicted and getting enrolled.... than the length of time he victimized his cousin.
I'm almost as disgusted with Oregon State as I am with the molester himself.
ETA:
He was free from real punsishment and suffering the consequences of his actions far too quickly to have undergone "significant transformation" IMO
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:56 am to LSUBaseballGod82
Now he can go to the independent league, and prove his stuff, while doing some community programs to get his name back in good graces, then hope for a tryout, or his contract gets purchased by MLB team.
I see guys from Independent leagues get contracts bought out and get a ticket back to A or AA all thew time.
If he does what i say, he should be fine, and all will be forgotten, Americans love a come back story.
I see guys from Independent leagues get contracts bought out and get a ticket back to A or AA all thew time.
If he does what i say, he should be fine, and all will be forgotten, Americans love a come back story.
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