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re: Australian Imam: Make No Mistake, Islamic Scripture Commands Beheadings, Massacre People

Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
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I generally agree with what you said, but this point doesn't make sense to me. The west is filled with violent history, and to this day is waging war across the globe. Maybe we should be focusing on reforming ourselves and stay the frick out of the places where the extremists live.


I agree that we should not be involved in the inner workings of a lot of countries, but some have progressed beyond a point where that would be as easily done as if we had, say, done so in the 70s. If we had, Iran would still be a democracy that looks more like America than Saudi Arabia.

We have to own up that we (the United States) created a mess that we (the United States) needs to clean up in some way. I'm not interested in partisan blame - the simple fact of the matter is that we stuck our hands into other countries all the time. If there's an issue with one now, we need to assess if we are part of the cause and then fix it - not hope it resolves itself.
Posted by MrCarton
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:10 pm to
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We have to own up that we (the United States) created a mess that we (the United States) needs to clean up in some way. I'm not interested in partisan blame - the simple fact of the matter is that we stuck our hands into other countries all the time. If there's an issue with one now, we need to assess if we are part of the cause and then fix it - not hope it resolves itself.



It cannot be fixed by government, especially not foreign governments. The people of the US shouldn't have to literally and figuratively
pay for the mistakes of people in the US government, past or present.

But that really wasn't my point. My point was the the west, including the US government, has as much blood on its hands as everyone else. So I'm sick of hearing about Muslim reformation being necessary when the west and Russia dropped about 100,000,000 bodies last century.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 1:11 pm
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