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Australian Imam: Make No Mistake, Islamic Scripture Commands Beheadings, Massacre People
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:45 pm
Article, with video
It's a pretty strong condemnation of Islamic scriptures and rewriting of Islamic history (how it spread, etc).
(Sorry if Germans, btw)
IMHO, there's three Islamic groups:
1.) The Majority - the ones who don't want violence, but either pretend it never happened or that it doesn't apply anymore. Not violent themselves but nor are they helping things.
2.) The Radical - the one who subscribes, as this cleric points out, to the belief that killing infidels is a gateway to their paradise. Hard to "teach" against something that has been at least partially preached (even if the clerics didn't command them to do it, if you're reading a holy book of your faith and it says in a lesser-known portion that Kermit the Frog is evil, then enough of them will find it and subscribe to the fact that Kermit is the devil)
3.) The Honest - the person who grew up with the religion, it is part of their core, but also understands where it came from and some of the horrible things it says. Tries to explain to people that there are just some members of this religion that will NEVER be okay with a "better relationship" and tries to get officials to do something. Tries to teach a, "Yes, we came from a violent past but we are not chained to it and we can be something better," viewpoint. A very tiny minority, sadly.
It's a pretty strong condemnation of Islamic scriptures and rewriting of Islamic history (how it spread, etc).
quote:
“I’m not happy at all. I disagree. We have a situation where a month doesn’t go by without a terrorist attack happening somewhere in the world. And for the past 1,400 years, we have had a religion of war. That’s exactly what we have had. This is not something I’m imagining. These are facts. We’ve had many wars. How did Islam spread from Saudi Arabia down to Indonesia and Bosnia? All spread by the sword. We had many wars. “And for someone to come and say these Islamic scriptures have nothing to do with it, I mean, that’s against the facts. That’s not true. The Islamic scriptures is exactly what is pushing these people to behead the infidel. “Let me tell you something, the people that are beheading — the person that killed the young girls in Manchester did so believing he was going to dine with the prophet Muhammad that very night. And that is because the Islamic scriptures told them.”
(Sorry if Germans, btw)
IMHO, there's three Islamic groups:
1.) The Majority - the ones who don't want violence, but either pretend it never happened or that it doesn't apply anymore. Not violent themselves but nor are they helping things.
2.) The Radical - the one who subscribes, as this cleric points out, to the belief that killing infidels is a gateway to their paradise. Hard to "teach" against something that has been at least partially preached (even if the clerics didn't command them to do it, if you're reading a holy book of your faith and it says in a lesser-known portion that Kermit the Frog is evil, then enough of them will find it and subscribe to the fact that Kermit is the devil)
3.) The Honest - the person who grew up with the religion, it is part of their core, but also understands where it came from and some of the horrible things it says. Tries to explain to people that there are just some members of this religion that will NEVER be okay with a "better relationship" and tries to get officials to do something. Tries to teach a, "Yes, we came from a violent past but we are not chained to it and we can be something better," viewpoint. A very tiny minority, sadly.
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:49 pm to skrayper
But Liberals told me Islam was peaceful. Am I supposed to believe an Islamic leader or Liberals?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:53 pm to skrayper
I've said it before and I'll a bunch more times; ALL radicals were moderates (majority) at one time.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:53 pm to skrayper
quote:
The Honest - the person who grew up with the religion, it is part of their core, but also understands where it came from and some of the horrible things it says. Tries to explain to people that there are just some members of this religion that will NEVER be okay with a "better relationship" and tries to get officials to do something. Tries to teach a, "Yes, we came from a violent past but we are not chained to it and we can be something better," viewpoint. A very tiny minority, sadly.
I generally agree with what you said, but this point doesn't make sense to me. The west is filled with violent history, and to this day is waging war across the globe. Maybe we should be focusing on reforming ourselves and stay the frick out of the places where the extremists live.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:53 pm to skrayper
yeah. so does Jewish scripture.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:53 pm to skrayper
quote:
And for the past 1,400 years, we have had a religion of war. That’s exactly what we have had. This is not something I’m imagining. These are facts. We’ve had many wars. How did Islam spread from Saudi Arabia down to Indonesia and Bosnia? All spread by the sword.
Absolute truth there yet the progressives like Ben Afleck will tell us Islam is a religion of peace despite Muhammad butchering his way across the Arabian penninsula.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:55 pm to skrayper
quote:
Australian Imam: Make No Mistake, Islamic Scripture Commands Beheadings, Massacre People
And the Snowflake Chorus responded, "If only we could figure out why this wonderful man, representing this great religion, hates us so much."
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:57 pm to skrayper
muslim girls don't give head, they take it
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:00 pm to skrayper
I like this guy
quote:
Tawhidi is considered a “fake” by other Muslims. In another YouTube video, he said:
“I am considered a fake because I would die for Australia. I am considered a fake because I live by the Australian constitution. I am considered a fake because I glorify the Australian flag. I am considered a fake because I reject sharia law and live by the Australian law. They have called me a fake Muslim Imam or a Shaikh only because I expose their intentions to create a caliphate within Australia. I am an Australian Muslim and not a Muslim Australian. I want an Islam that is compatible with the west.
“The bottom line is, I want Australia to stay Australian.”
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:05 pm to skrayper
quote:Of course it does; their father Satan wrote it.
Islamic Scripture Commands Beheadings, Massacre People
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:06 pm to skrayper
quote:
IMHO, there's three Islamic groups: 1.) The Majority - the ones who don't want violence, but either pretend it never happened or that it doesn't apply anymore. Not violent themselves but nor are they helping things. 2.) The Radical - the one who subscribes, as this cleric points out, to the belief that killing infidels is a gateway to their paradise. Hard to "teach" against something that has been at least partially preached (even if the clerics didn't command them to do it, if you're reading a holy book of your faith and it says in a lesser-known portion that Kermit the Frog is evil, then enough of them will find it and subscribe to the fact that Kermit is the devil) 3.) The Honest - the person who grew up with the religion, it is part of their core, but also understands where it came from and some of the horrible things it says. Tries to explain to people that there are just some members of this religion that will NEVER be okay with a "better relationship" and tries to get officials to do something. Tries to teach a, "Yes, we came from a violent past but we are not chained to it and we can be something better," viewpoint. A very tiny minority, sadly.
Here is why your theory on Muslims is wrong.
Pew Research did extensive poling on all religions of the world and their beliefs.
Here are some excerpts from what Muslims living in the United States said...
3.3 million Muslims of all ages in the U.S., or about 1% of the U.S. population
About suicide bombings
In the United States, the 2011 survey found that 86% of Muslims say such tactics are rarely or never justified. 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified.
Let that sink in.
You would have to believe given the terribleness of the question that the results are actually WAY under reported.
Again these were US Muslims. These are not the wackadoodles living in the Middle East.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:07 pm to skrayper
Anyone who knows anything about history knows what this guy says is true. It's not even debatable. Islam started in Saudi Arabia and spread across the Mid-East by conquest. Iran, for instance, was practicing old Indo-European religions in ancient times, and then by about 500 BCE, they started practicing Zoroastrianism. Iran today still has Zoroastrian minorities and was a pretty religiously tolerant country until 1979.
To be fair, though, the same happened to Europe with Christianity. Everyone was just chilling worshiping nature (Druids) or the old Indo-European pantheon of gods (like Zeus) until the Romans moved in and forcibly converted everyone (and then those people themselves converted others throughout the centuries). This means YOUR ancestors, baws, were pagans back in the day.
Religious people always want to force others to believe what they believe. It's all about power and suborning populations. Personally, I really don't give a shite what other people believe and this is why I am not religious.
To be fair, though, the same happened to Europe with Christianity. Everyone was just chilling worshiping nature (Druids) or the old Indo-European pantheon of gods (like Zeus) until the Romans moved in and forcibly converted everyone (and then those people themselves converted others throughout the centuries). This means YOUR ancestors, baws, were pagans back in the day.
Religious people always want to force others to believe what they believe. It's all about power and suborning populations. Personally, I really don't give a shite what other people believe and this is why I am not religious.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:09 pm to skrayper
I've been saying it for a while. The "radicals" are the ones who are actually the Conservatives in Islam. The "moderates" are the liberals who are picking and choosing what they want to agree with in Islam.
Those who want to coexist with Islam have to reject the Islam that Muhammad created.
Those who want to coexist with Islam have to reject the Islam that Muhammad created.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:19 pm to skrayper
As a liberal I'll admit the following:
Violence is committed in the name of all religions. However, at this time and for some time the majority of religious terrorists are Muslim.
So being that all three major religions have texts that can justify violence and killing, what is the other factor involved with Muslims that bring them to this? It isn't just the religion or you would see more Christians and Jews doing this. Is it mental illness? Is it poverty? To blame it solely on the religion isn't accurate and short sighted.
Violence is committed in the name of all religions. However, at this time and for some time the majority of religious terrorists are Muslim.
So being that all three major religions have texts that can justify violence and killing, what is the other factor involved with Muslims that bring them to this? It isn't just the religion or you would see more Christians and Jews doing this. Is it mental illness? Is it poverty? To blame it solely on the religion isn't accurate and short sighted.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:12 pm to skrayper
The fictional series "Homeland" deals with fighting the war against radical Islam. In this short clip the CIA operative "Quinn" has just spent 2 years in Syria, he lays out the problem for his superiors. Unfortunately his response is 100% based on today's reality.
LINK
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:38 pm to skrayper
Thus the very reason the cult of Islam needs to be eradicated from the planet...
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