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What can be done about Islamic terror?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:06 am
Easy first step: vote against those perpetuating the problem. If there isnt a candidate to vote for, run for office or dont vote.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:08 am to bamafan1001
Ban them from entering our country, oh wait that's too mean.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:08 am to bamafan1001
In my opinion, nothing, it is an ideological conflict.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:08 am to bamafan1001
Nothing. Because all of the solutions are mean and we can't be mean to anyone.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:09 am to bamafan1001
I would probably get banned if I said what needs to be done to stop Islamic terror permanently.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:11 am to ninthward
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In my opinion, nothing, it is an ideological conflict.
This is a cop-out.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:11 am to bamafan1001
What did momma say when you left the door open and the A/C was escaping and the bugs were coming inside?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:11 am to Malik Agar
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I would probably get banned if I said what needs to be done to stop Islamic terror permanently.
Same.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:12 am to bamafan1001
For starters stop enabling Saudi Arabia, but nope we just did some more deals with them.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:17 am to bamafan1001
Liberals can press Muslims for an Islamic reformation as we fast approach the 50th anniversary of Vatican II.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:18 am to ninthward
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In my opinion, nothing, it is an ideological conflict.
replace the ideology with a better ideology
we have been fighting Muslim countries for decades now, war isn't the solution, it's just a continued bandage
the final solution is destroying the ideology altogether by replacing it with better knowledge, reach the young minds earlier and more aggressively
obviously this won't happen over night or even in the next decade, but it is the only solution
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:18 am to Malik Agar
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I would probably get banned if I said what needs to be done to stop Islamic terror permanently.
What - nuke the ME? Been said multiple times.
We just need to gtfo of the ME and let the region figure itself out...it's a tar baby we've been wrestling with for 50 years with nothing but negative outcomes.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:20 am to cwill
There are millions of these savages in the West already. They have to be dealt with because they're only going to keep breeding like rats and shitting up our society.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:20 am to bamafan1001
Regardless of political leanings, I think Trump took the right approach during the trip to Saudi Arabia.
Positive and respectful interaction with the legitimate government, but openly and passionate speech about the need to drive the extremists out. He didn't come in and antagonize the leaders, and he didn't ignore the problem either.
It's similar to how we have dealt with Communist China over the past decade- welcome and cultivate the good parts of their country so they will work more with us, instead of them totally gearing up to fight us. We now have more conflict with China about economic issues, than political ones.
Positive and respectful interaction with the legitimate government, but openly and passionate speech about the need to drive the extremists out. He didn't come in and antagonize the leaders, and he didn't ignore the problem either.
It's similar to how we have dealt with Communist China over the past decade- welcome and cultivate the good parts of their country so they will work more with us, instead of them totally gearing up to fight us. We now have more conflict with China about economic issues, than political ones.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:25 am to bamafan1001
Islam is not compatible with Western culture. Hinduism is, Buddhism is, atheism is . We must minimize those who have proven their incompatibility with our culture and kindly assimilate those already among us to the primacy and superiority of Western values and culture.
Or if that is just too much for you, we just get used to burying our dead children.
Or if that is just too much for you, we just get used to burying our dead children.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:28 am to bamafan1001
Realistically, there isn't any particular policy that will effectively prevent it from happening worldwide.
However small the fraction of practicing Muslims that are willing to commit acts of terror to advance their beliefs (both theological and political), there really is no tenable way to isolate them so as to eliminate, or even significantly reduce, the threat of violent actions like last night's bombing. In fact the only effective method at stopping terrorism of any ideological bent is complete global totalitarian control, which would be infinitely worse for humanity.
What the US could do (but almost certainly won't) to at least lessen the number of future incidents would be to declare a complete moratorium on ALL immigration, and begin allowing all visas to foreign nationals to expire without renewal. No citizen of any other nation has a "right" to be in the US.
Simultaneously, we should move to a strictly transactional foreign policy. No more "we have to fight them over there to avoid fighting them here", because that is obviously not working. Maintain a defensive posture for our allies, but stop initiating or supporting their actions against their own citizens or their neighbors, either overtly or covertly.
In other words, no more "Invade the World/Invite the World". Certainly this will cause significant economic upheaval, but not any more than another major terrorist strike similar to 9/11, which I believe to be inevitable if we pursue our current ineffective policies.
However small the fraction of practicing Muslims that are willing to commit acts of terror to advance their beliefs (both theological and political), there really is no tenable way to isolate them so as to eliminate, or even significantly reduce, the threat of violent actions like last night's bombing. In fact the only effective method at stopping terrorism of any ideological bent is complete global totalitarian control, which would be infinitely worse for humanity.
What the US could do (but almost certainly won't) to at least lessen the number of future incidents would be to declare a complete moratorium on ALL immigration, and begin allowing all visas to foreign nationals to expire without renewal. No citizen of any other nation has a "right" to be in the US.
Simultaneously, we should move to a strictly transactional foreign policy. No more "we have to fight them over there to avoid fighting them here", because that is obviously not working. Maintain a defensive posture for our allies, but stop initiating or supporting their actions against their own citizens or their neighbors, either overtly or covertly.
In other words, no more "Invade the World/Invite the World". Certainly this will cause significant economic upheaval, but not any more than another major terrorist strike similar to 9/11, which I believe to be inevitable if we pursue our current ineffective policies.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 9:30 am
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:29 am to bamafan1001
Islamic Reform lead by the Imams
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:30 am to bamafan1001
Trump is doing it. Just watch. Gotta go to the root; Islamist Theology. Call out Muslims to support El Sisi's "Islamic Reformation", and remove any Theological legitimacy from Islam Proper. Problematic...but the Mormons pulled it off; it has to be done, lest the Idea of Jihad as a Religious Duty toward a World Caliphate remain on the table.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:32 am to bamafan1001
If it were me, i would ahut down routes out of the city on a day like Sunday. I would go door to door and check every single persons I'd yo establish they are legal to be there. Further, if they are there on visa, I would revoke and make them go thru extreme vetting to stay. Throw the others out!
I live freedom, but it comes at a periodic disruption, thru ought history. Sucks, but at this point you have to break some eggs for that omlet
At the minimum, take calls on all suspicious men and detain them and vet.
frick it, take the gloves off. Let them go back to sandland and be killers there
I live freedom, but it comes at a periodic disruption, thru ought history. Sucks, but at this point you have to break some eggs for that omlet
At the minimum, take calls on all suspicious men and detain them and vet.
frick it, take the gloves off. Let them go back to sandland and be killers there
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