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re: Stephen A talking about Cp3 and the Pelicans
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:15 am to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:15 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:You are completely guessing on the players we would have drafted. We will never know. The trades had other ramifications as well (i.e. Asik's contract)and effects on free agency approaches. There is no way to know how it would have turned out. Regardless, we are where we are, for better or worse.
Do you really think having MCW or Trey Burke, then McDermott, then Dekkar would have been better than Jrue and Asik? Yeah anythign would have been better than Asik, but at the time Asik looked like the kind of hustle big we needed, he just turned into fettuccine instead. Assuming we never got Asik, and didn't trade Jrue, i would guess that we would have picked MCW or Burke. Next year we would have needed a center and would have picked Nurkic. doubt we win 45 games and make the playoffs, but we would have been decent enough, but probably still would have picked Dekkar. Even in that scenario, we aren't better. Only scenario that would have made us better is if we would have picked McCollum and then Lavine, which we were never going to do b/c of the needs we had. Jrue Holiday is better than any of the 2 people we would have likely taken. There is nothing wrong with trading picks for proven players. Jrue was and is a proven player. Asik turned out not to be. Cousins is a proven player. You get a guy like Fournier with the 2018 pick, he's a proven player. The draft is a crapshoot, and we don't have the type of coaching to make late round picks worth a shite, nor do we have the team to give them roles that late round picks can excel at and grow into good players.
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:57 am to NOSHAU
Seeing the draft or trade argument solely through the lens of raw talent is short sighted.
The trade off is more then just that.
It is also the money saved that can be used in FA, the lower downside because drafted players can more easily be moved when needed and are less harmful to flexibility, the control you have with their first two contracts vs only a much more narrow window when trading for players on second contracts, the ability to develop into your system from the onset of their careers.
The trade off is more then just that.
It is also the money saved that can be used in FA, the lower downside because drafted players can more easily be moved when needed and are less harmful to flexibility, the control you have with their first two contracts vs only a much more narrow window when trading for players on second contracts, the ability to develop into your system from the onset of their careers.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:00 pm to NOSHAU
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ou are completely guessing on the players we would have drafted. We will never know. The trades had other ramifications as well (i.e. Asik's contract)and effects on free agency approaches. There is no way to know how it would have turned out. Regardless, we are where we are, for better or worse.
I agree. I made a lot of assumption there, i know.
What I do know, is that when we do have picks, we aren't to good at them.
We hit on CP3, David West and Anthony Davis, in 15 years. Everyone else did little to nothing for us.
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