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re: Stephen A talking about Cp3 and the Pelicans

Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:01 am to
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:01 am to
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I'm not sure you can focus on the drafting as the important element in the process. The best drafted players you're talking about from these teams have FAR exceeded expectations. It is competent drafting but most importantly mixed with good player development and team building. It does seem unlikely that the current regime could replicate that success, but Danny Ferry was able to build smartly in Atlanta so hopefully he'll return as a consultant and steady the ship a bit. Also, so much is riding on Cousins and AD being happy with direction of the franchise next summer that I think you do need to cash in the 2018 pick.
Would have loved to at least attempt to build via the draft, but Demps punted on that. At this point, it may be too late to try and start doing so (absent getting a top 2-3 pick this year and even then, he will probably trade it). So, we have to hope for the best possible scenario in his fast-track roster creation scheme.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:50 am to
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Would have loved to at least attempt to build via the draft, but Demps punted on that. At this point, it may be too late to try and start doing so (absent getting a top 2-3 pick this year and even then, he will probably trade it). So, we have to hope for the best possible scenario in his fast-track roster creation scheme.




Do you really think having MCW or Trey Burke, then McDermott, then Dekkar would have been better than Jrue and Asik? Yeah anythign would have been better than Asik, but at the time Asik looked like the kind of hustle big we needed, he just turned into fettuccine instead.

Assuming we never got Asik, and didn't trade Jrue, i would guess that we would have picked MCW or Burke. Next year we would have needed a center and would have picked Nurkic. doubt we win 45 games and make the playoffs, but we would have been decent enough, but probably still would have picked Dekkar. Even in that scenario, we aren't better.
Only scenario that would have made us better is if we would have picked McCollum and then Lavine, which we were never going to do b/c of the needs we had.

Jrue Holiday is better than any of the 2 people we would have likely taken. There is nothing wrong with trading picks for proven players. Jrue was and is a proven player. Asik turned out not to be. Cousins is a proven player. You get a guy like Fournier with the 2018 pick, he's a proven player. The draft is a crapshoot, and we don't have the type of coaching to make late round picks worth a shite, nor do we have the team to give them roles that late round picks can excel at and grow into good players.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 10:28 am
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