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Is there a secular argument against abortions?

Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:46 pm
In the welfare nanny state that we live in and will be living in for the foreseeable future, if you take morality out of the equation, is it not cheaper for taxpayers to pay for a one time abortion than to pay for food, education, welfare, Medicaid, prison, drug rehab, etc. for all of these unwanted babies born to unfit parents?

In the meantime, you can still preach the perceived evils of abortion and teach sex ed and make contraception easily available.

You can decrease the number of abortions without making it illegal or pulling funding.




This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24855 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:47 pm to
You must not have heard many arguments on this before.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:48 pm to
Yes, that it's morally reprehensible.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21496 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:49 pm to
The original purpose of planned parenthood was to decrease the number of african americans. The founder was an avid racist. That is why most clinics are in african american neighborhoods.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82232 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:50 pm to
Without abortion America would be an absolute disaster right now.

George HW Bush would have been the last Republican president in American history
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:51 pm to
It makes priveledged white girls all willy nilly with their poor boyfriend's bank account.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124188 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Is there a secular argument against abortions?
Viability.

Occasional psych complications.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Is there a secular argument against abortions?


Well. I'm atheist and anti-abortion............so, apparently, yes.
Posted by SMU Tiger Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
390 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:57 pm to
Are there secular arguments against killing a 10-year old kid? Try those
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72724 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Is there a secular argument against abortions?


Sure, just not a very good one.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5861 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:09 pm to
Yup. I am agnostic, libertarian, and pro-life. Abortion is either getting a haircut or murder; you either believe it is human life or just a random cluster of cells that you are getting rid of. I will also add, there are many that think abortion is ok or necessary in a fiscal sense, I find that to be morally reprehensible.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19089 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

if you take morality out of the equation, is it not cheaper for taxpayers

really? you are actually postulating this premise? so, if we take morality out of the equation, would it not be cheaper to let me rob your house and rape your wife than pay for a constant police force and courts? and if i must kill you to do it, so be it.
if morality is to play no part in society, then can we enslave black folks again?
i suggest that you may want to rethink your idea.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14130 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:37 pm to
People who perform abortions are probably, and unequivocally fricked.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:38 pm to
I don't believe "secular" people have morals so probably isn't one
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68227 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:40 pm to
It causes population imbalances between the sexes.

See China.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22536 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:58 pm to
Same argument could be used for terminating the life of elderly, except we'd save more money
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89619 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:21 pm to
By your logic, there is no secular argument against "retiring" layabouts?

I guess it all depends on your respect for life.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57344 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:28 pm to
It's murder?
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
886 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

if you take morality out of the equation, is it not cheaper for taxpayers to pay for a one time abortion than to pay for food, education, welfare, Medicaid, prison, drug rehab, etc. for all of these unwanted babies born to unfit parents?


If you are making the argument from a strictly fiscal prospective, then it would also be OK to murder infants that were born to "unfit parents". Viability is the best non-moral argument. The only difference between a viable fetus and a human is location.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50764 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:33 pm to
Yes. It ends a life. It's murder.
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