so, that negates the fact that he had 12.5 last year, a year where the D played on was top 5 vs. the pass? he had a very active role in helping that team achieve that.... we don't have anyone like that on our squad... and we didn't try to get one this year either apparently...

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how are you even going to do that? there was no starting DE with elite pass rushing talent this year outside of 1 guy. he went #1 overall

are you kidding? this was a very deep draft for pass rushers, and we skipped over all of them, multiple times...

like i said, let's revisit this thread at the end of the season, and see what ended up being more important... we evidently are great in the secondary now, with the picks we made, so if we finish in the top 16 vs. the pass, considering we don't have shite as far as a pass rush, then you were right... our coverage was the problem, not the pass rush... but if we still end up in the bottom half, even with this now great secondary, then evidently you were wrong, and our pass rush is at fault....

let's bookmark it and see who ends up being right... you or me...

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Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:34 am to chRxis

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so, that negates the fact that he had 12.5 last year, a year where the D played on was top 5 vs. the pass?

it negates his pass rushing talent

especially considering you said he was better than anyone we had and Cam has vastly out-performed him over their respective careers

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we don't have anyone like that on our squad

Cam Jordan is a metric frick ton better than Lorenzo Alexandr, bro

Lorenzo Alexander, including last year, has 21.5 career sacks. Cam has more than double that in about half the time

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are you kidding? this was a very deep draft for pass rushers,

and 1 elite guy

then 2 solid prospects

then a bunch of guys at the same level (and we got one of them)

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and we skipped over all of them, multiple times...

no pretty sure we drafted one

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Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:37 am to chRxis

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let's revisit this thread at the end of the season, and see what ended up being more important

how in the frick cold you even make that comparison?

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we evidently are great in the secondary now

never said that

we're a lot better than we were a few days ago, though

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so if we finish in the top 16 vs. the pass, considering we don't have shite as far as a pass rush, then you were right.

that is utterly retarded and doesn't take randomness into account or the fact that you don't draft for 2017 alone

and there is no way to measure your mythical replacement against this. say we drafted rivers instead of analzone, how would we ever know in that hypothetical scenario what the impact would have been? you can't know this.

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