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re: Investing In Tesla
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:56 pm to dabigfella
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:56 pm to dabigfella
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I mean oil isn't going anywhere, its still used in a bajillion things other than cars but I think when we look back in 100 years and see that we used to dig up oil,refine it, and pump it into cars to power them we will laugh as we can also power cars using the sun and solar panels. It's sad when you see oil spills, that tanker truck explosion posted in the OT a few weeks ago, and dangerous things that come from oil.
Is tesla perfect today? no its not, hell its charging stations still rely on fossil fuels, but the long term goal obviously is solar panels powering the charging stations to charge the cars. It's not stuff thats going to happen overnight, but to me its the biggest power shift of our lifetime and tesla has an incredible product to lead the charge at this point. I wish other auto companies would follow suit but after being bearish for a long time, I finally understood why big auto doesn't/ can't.
Looking at Tesla as a tech company is a good idea. When I look at Tesla I can only associate them with growth. Every dollar goes back into that business. The gigafactory is such a huge endeavor, Panasonic was smart to side with Elon. Baby steps but the super charger network is such a cool idea and seems to be working well, and it's only expanding around the world. I could type paragraphs but it would be a waste of time
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Lots of that electricity will be made with the shite tons of stupid cheap NG we are sitting on.
No doubt, and LA will still be broke while the oil companies rape the state of it's natural resources.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 8:57 pm
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:01 pm to Old Money
I saw that rendering yesterday, what an incredible opportunity to build out the "gas" stations of the future. The thing with the superchargers is they're mainly used for traveling not so much day to day charging. There was some analyst who put out a report that it would cost $8B for Tesla to make superchargers as accessible as gas stations are currently, every 4 min apart. Here's a link
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The big thing I think that analyst missed is, tesla doesn't need to bc every house is a gas station in that sense and if he did an analysis on what it cost to put a gas station at every house it would be trillions of dollars with underground storage tanks and pumps involved.
Charging is slow at home, yes, but if you plug it in overnight its ready by morning. The average person can go a full day on 200+ miles, key word average person, yes some people need more. The supercharger network is perfectly spaced out and the navigation system guides you to the supercharger and tells you how many are free before you arrive. You stop and recharge in 30-40 minutes, go use the restroom, eat at a local restaurant near the charger and return. Again thats now in 2017, surely by 2027 it wont take 30 min to charge the battery. I see them at whole foods when I shop too, but those are different chargers, not from tesla, but I was told they're still free, not sure if thats true.
Pretty damn cool to me that you can drive all over the country free of charge.
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The big thing I think that analyst missed is, tesla doesn't need to bc every house is a gas station in that sense and if he did an analysis on what it cost to put a gas station at every house it would be trillions of dollars with underground storage tanks and pumps involved.
Charging is slow at home, yes, but if you plug it in overnight its ready by morning. The average person can go a full day on 200+ miles, key word average person, yes some people need more. The supercharger network is perfectly spaced out and the navigation system guides you to the supercharger and tells you how many are free before you arrive. You stop and recharge in 30-40 minutes, go use the restroom, eat at a local restaurant near the charger and return. Again thats now in 2017, surely by 2027 it wont take 30 min to charge the battery. I see them at whole foods when I shop too, but those are different chargers, not from tesla, but I was told they're still free, not sure if thats true.
Pretty damn cool to me that you can drive all over the country free of charge.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:07 pm to Old Money
back to the guy who said tesla wouldn't be around without subsidies.....
It's sort of true that Tesla wouldn't exist without clean air incentives. They would have never attempted it. Why bother with it? Cars in general would be a lot dirtier without various rules and regulations and such. I'm from originally from CA and if you look at pictures of LA in the 50s, it had smog as bad as the big cities in china today, it was awful till we began to regulate pollution standards in the US.Big auto didn't fix CA smog, CA did via clean air regulations.
Big auto did their thing: Big auto opposed the clean air regulation improvements every step of the way, of course. Point being the car industry has long history of needing regulations and incentives to keep them from killing people and needlessly drowning cities in smog. ZEVs are just of the more modern implementations of these goals. System works, China is copying it and setting more ambitious EV standards
It's sort of true that Tesla wouldn't exist without clean air incentives. They would have never attempted it. Why bother with it? Cars in general would be a lot dirtier without various rules and regulations and such. I'm from originally from CA and if you look at pictures of LA in the 50s, it had smog as bad as the big cities in china today, it was awful till we began to regulate pollution standards in the US.Big auto didn't fix CA smog, CA did via clean air regulations.
Big auto did their thing: Big auto opposed the clean air regulation improvements every step of the way, of course. Point being the car industry has long history of needing regulations and incentives to keep them from killing people and needlessly drowning cities in smog. ZEVs are just of the more modern implementations of these goals. System works, China is copying it and setting more ambitious EV standards
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