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Do you believe the CIA, FBI, etc truly have American's best interest at heart?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:15 am
I do. I think they really do work night and day to protect Americans from foreign threats.
Sometimes they may even take their devotion to keeping Americans safe too far to the point where it infringes on our privacy.
But I truly believe they are 100% on our side and protecting Americans is their #1 goal.
Sometimes they may even take their devotion to keeping Americans safe too far to the point where it infringes on our privacy.
But I truly believe they are 100% on our side and protecting Americans is their #1 goal.
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:17 am to PrimeTime Money
I want to say yes, but power and money can corrupt anyone.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:19 am to PrimeTime Money
I don't believe the CIA is truly on the side of average tax-paying Americans after 16 years of being stocked by the most blatant neocon and neoliberal administrations in American history.
The CIA is full of assholes like Evan McMullin - and he's on the RIGHT. Imagine the worthless crap that joined and was appointed under Obama.
The CIA is full of assholes like Evan McMullin - and he's on the RIGHT. Imagine the worthless crap that joined and was appointed under Obama.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:19 am to PrimeTime Money
I'm sure they do, or at least they think they do.
The real crux of the issue is, what is in America's best interest. Their answer might be different than yours.
The real crux of the issue is, what is in America's best interest. Their answer might be different than yours.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:20 am to PrimeTime Money
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I do
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:21 am to PrimeTime Money
I wouldn't call it a conspiracy per se, but I do believe they do as they are told. If there's a universal trait to most people in these agencies it's that they're chaulk full of yes men.
When you have people who think saying no is treasonous, you end up with situations like the IRS scandals and the Clinton's. I don't think they have the best interests at heart, but that's mostly because they aren't allowed to think for themselves and take orders without question. It's the people at the top I don't trust, not the desk jockeys.
When you have people who think saying no is treasonous, you end up with situations like the IRS scandals and the Clinton's. I don't think they have the best interests at heart, but that's mostly because they aren't allowed to think for themselves and take orders without question. It's the people at the top I don't trust, not the desk jockeys.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 9:23 am
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:21 am to PrimeTime Money
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I do. I think they really do work night and day to protect America from foreign threats.
Not that same as Americans
America's best interest is in a way in every Americans' best interest. But not every American's best interest is in the best interest of America in the way they operate. Maybe it's the way it has to be though
Prime example: Operation Northwoods which was turned down by JFK was a proposal to stage false flag attacks that would include killing civilians, to be carried out by the CIA. It was to justify an invasion of Cuba. Yeah its messed up, but it would have prevented the Cuban Missile Crisis which was the closest we've come to a nuclear holocaust.
I wouldn't trust my life or well being in the hands of the CIA, but I trust they are doing what is in the best interest of the Nation that me and my family are a part of. Not necessarily altruistic IMO, just doing what needs to be done in the cut throats business of geopolitics.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 9:37 am
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:22 am to PrimeTime Money
What are American interest?
If it's controlling our national debt, protecting our sovereignty, and advancing liberty then, no. They do not have the best interest of American at their hearts.
If it means controlling the power structure, intervening in foreign affairs and making sure Americans are a obedient and compliant populous, then yes they have American interest at heart.
If it's controlling our national debt, protecting our sovereignty, and advancing liberty then, no. They do not have the best interest of American at their hearts.
If it means controlling the power structure, intervening in foreign affairs and making sure Americans are a obedient and compliant populous, then yes they have American interest at heart.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:23 am to PrimeTime Money
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American's best interest
going to need one hell of a lot of bandwidth to define and debate that concept.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:23 am to PrimeTime Money
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But I truly believe they are 100% on our side and protecting Americans is their #1 goal.
Nobody here will believe but its true.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:23 am to PrimeTime Money
I think they have the best interest of America at heart. Conservatives think that means best interests of individual Americans and Liberals think of America as the State. The problem is there are still too many Obama people in high positions in these agencies.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:24 am to PrimeTime Money
Are they a political department. They are human and have human frailties. The agents have fears and ambitions like most.
Do you believe it would have been in the best interest of Americans and Justice would have been served if Comey had recommended that Hillary be indited?
Do you believe it would have been in the best interest of Americans and Justice would have been served if Comey had recommended that Hillary be indited?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:24 am to PrimeTime Money
I definitely believe the majority of them have the very best intentions and are true Patriots.
I fear that the higher up one goes the more politically influenced and corrupted they become.
I fear that the higher up one goes the more politically influenced and corrupted they become.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:25 am to PrimeTime Money
By and large, yes. Of course they're incredibly powerful agencies and in their long history have had some bad apples and run some ill-advised programs and operations. Like any other agency in their position the public only hears about them when they screw up or when their activities are controversial. But they do a lot of good work round the clock that doesn't get publicity because it's not as sexy or there's no hint of scandal.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:28 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Yes, and those who make fertilizer certainly don't do so to make bombs. What's your point?
Do you believe the CIA, FBI, etc truly have American's best interest at heart?
I do. I think they really do work night and day to protect Americans from foreign threats.
Sometimes they may even take their devotion to keeping Americans safe too far to the point where it infringes on our privacy.
But I truly believe they are 100% on our side and protecting Americans is their #1 goal.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:31 am to PrimeTime Money
To an extent, but their main motivations are self-preservation and the advancement of their agencies.
If it was announced that the CIA was being folded as an organization, do you think they would go away quietly for the good of the country? Or would they go scorched earth, which would not be good for the country?
If it was announced that the CIA was being folded as an organization, do you think they would go away quietly for the good of the country? Or would they go scorched earth, which would not be good for the country?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:33 am to PrimeTime Money
Problem is, appointments like John Brennan
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:34 am to PrimeTime Money
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Do you believe the CIA, FBI, etc truly have American's best interest at heart?
Hell no.
Thanks to Wikileaks, we know more now about just how ridiculous the CIA is. As for the FBI, I have more trust in the rank-and-file members as opposed to leadership. I remember hearing that Comey was not a very popular man inside the walls of the FBI building after he let Hildabeast off the hook.
As for Comey, I believe that I know we can't trust him. Don't know the particulars, but he is either corrupt or else he's simply been compromised in some way. He's obviously a liar. The day he announced that he would not recommend an indictment of Hillary, Comey said that NOBODY knew what his decision was ahead of time. Yet, Obama had already planned to make a joint campaign appearance with Hillary later that day. Does anybody here really believe that Obama would've risked making that joint appearance if there was a chance HRC was going to be indicted? Of course not.
Not to mention that Comey gladly testified that the FBI investigation of Trump/Russia was still ongoing, but when asked about other possible investigations, Comey said, "The FBI doesn't comment on ongoing investigations."
Comey is as crooked as an angry rattlesnake.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:16 am to PrimeTime Money
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Do you believe the CIA, FBI, etc truly have American's best interest at heart?
If you mean are they patriotic I say yes BUT what looks like patriotism to one person is fascism to another.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:16 am to PrimeTime Money
Rank and file yes. But I no longer trust the leadership at the top.
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