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re: 'Universal' health care will NEVER work
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:52 am to redfishfan
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:52 am to redfishfan
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every single first world country, besides the USA, has UHC and youre suggesting, in every single first world country, their systems are failures?
And every single one of those countries has sub par care when compared to the US.
Actually the data out there shows that we spend more of our GDP (and more per capita than 2 countries with UHC) but have worse outcomes
below is the more in depth statistics and source
"Public spending on health care amounted to $4,197 per capita in the U.S. in 2013, more than in any other country except Norway ($4,981) and the Netherlands ($4,495), despite the fact that the U.S. was the only country studied that did not have a universal health care system. In the U.S., about 34 percent of residents were covered by public programs in 2013, including Medicare and Medicaid.7 By comparison, every resident in the United Kingdom is covered by the public system and spending was $2,802 per capita. "
"On several measures of population health, Americans had worse outcomes than their international peers. The U.S. had the lowest life expectancy at birth of the countries studied, at 78.8 years in 2013, compared with the OECD median of 81.2 years. "
"The Institute of Medicine found that poorer health in the U.S. was not simply the result of economic, social, or racial and ethnic disadvantages—even well-off, nonsmoking, nonobese Americans appear in worse health than their counterparts abroad."
"How can we explain the higher U.S. spending? In line with previous studies,19 the results of this analysis suggest that the excess is likely driven by greater utilization of medical technology and higher prices, rather than use of routine services, such as more frequent visits to physicians and hospitals."
"Health care spending in the U.S. far exceeds that in other countries, despite a global slowdown in spending growth in recent years. At 17.1 percent of GDP, the U.S. devotes at least 50 percent more of its economy to health care than do other countries. Even public spending on health care, on a per capita basis, is higher in the U.S. than in most other countries with universal public coverage."
*all emphasis mine
source: https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/oct/us-health-care-from-a-global-perspective
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:54 am to ctalati32
TaxingAuthority has already destroyed that argument in this thread. Go back and read. We spend pretty much the same per person until age 60. That's when we start paying more.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:59 am to ctalati32
Public spending is much higher when you pay ER prices for office visit issues.
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