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re: Raiders to Vegas Official
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:23 pm to kemm1
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:23 pm to kemm1
At what point do cities and states have enough of funding stadiums for sports teams whether it be the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc? I know it's how business is done now but is there a threshold where tax payers wake up and say enough is enough? At some point these leagues are going to run out of markets to exploit.
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:26 pm to cardboardboxer
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Pretty crazy how in my lifetime the NFL has gone from wanting to keep arms length from gambling to moving a team to Las Vegas to presumably maximize the benefit of gambling (otherwise what's the point its a small market).
How does it benefit gambling?
Las Vegas is a good choice because it is a destination City. Raiders fans from Northern California, Southern California, & everywhere else will trek to Vegas for a game. Ditto visiting team fans. Add in the locals and other tourists, and you'll have a full stadium.
Vegas is larger than many NFL markets including New Orleans. It is also one of the faster growing areas as well.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:34 pm to blueboy
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Vegas is a city of 600k people. I can see the tourist destination angle, but they'll lose most of their Bay Area fans and won't gain much in Vegas. And yes, the casino angle is sleazy to the core.
City population numbers are irrelevant. City boundaries are arbitrary. Use metro numbers. The Raiders will not be playing within the city limits. Most of the Las Vegas Strip is outside the city limits. The Stratosphere is located just north of Vegas's southern city limits.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:35 pm to Snoop Dawg
I'm glad my home town is getting a team. Not glad it will bring more raider fans.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:40 pm to Northshore Saint
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At what point do cities and states have enough of funding stadiums for sports teams whether it be the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc? I know it's how business is done now but is there a threshold where tax payers wake up and say enough is enough?
Have you researched where the Vegas funding come from? Hint: they nail tourists, not the tax paying locals.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:54 pm to Snoop Dawg
Doesn't really matter. Still tax revenue that could be spent elsewhere. It's corporate welfare at it's worst.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:55 pm to Snoop Dawg
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How does it benefit gambling?
It doesn't benefit gambling. It benefits from gambling as people gambling on the games will have a more intense interest than those who don't.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:13 pm to Northshore Saint
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Doesn't really matter. Still tax revenue that could be spent elsewhere. It's corporate welfare at it's worst.
No, that tax revenue wouldn't be coming in if the Raiders weren't coming. The increase wouldn't have passed and therefore that tax revenue wouldn't be there. If anything it will create excess revenue that can trickle down to roads but we already budget way too much for our roads anyway. I can't tell you how often they just put up traffic cones without ever doing any construction just so they can justify the dollars they get now.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:26 pm to Duggars23
Fav team marries fav town..I'm so there!
Between LV locals, weekend warrior LA and Bay Area folks, traveling Raidernation, and traveling road team fans..tix will be scarce.
Between LV locals, weekend warrior LA and Bay Area folks, traveling Raidernation, and traveling road team fans..tix will be scarce.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:34 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
I was wondering if I should put in for season tickets
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:40 pm to JG77056
JG, I'd think you can't lose money, only make some if bought them, and sell off some games?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:41 pm to Duggars23
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Raiders to Vegas Official
As a non-CA Raider fan, this seems like the best case scenario. Even a lot of Bay Area fans are admitting that the Raiders were basically forced out.
Mark Davis attempted to stay in Oakland for nearly 6 years before giving up and looking at Vegas. He gave it a damned good try to stay in the Bay Area.
Viva Las Vegas.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 5:36 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Don't give me that. If UNLV could bring in $$$$$$$$$ a conference wouldn't give two shits about a "research" university. College SPORTS is about $$$$$$$$$$$ not academics.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 5:37 am
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:03 am to msudawg1200
LaTech will be one of the first to play in that new stadium; they are scheduled to play at UNLV on Sept.5, 2020
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:17 am to hsfolk
This gives me a good excuse to dress up as Hunter S. Thompson and go to games.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:20 am to msudawg1200
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Don't give me that. If UNLV could bring in $$$$$$$$$ a conference wouldn't give two shits about a "research" university. College SPORTS is about $$$$$$$$$$$ not academics.
So you're happy with the government handing over $750 million to a private enterprise?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:30 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Between LV locals, weekend warrior LA and Bay Area folks, traveling Raidernation, and traveling road team fans..tix will be scarce
Exactly. Vegas is a very transient city, they will never develop a strong local fan base which is what they need.
However, the NFL has shown they don't give a shite about that and are just looking for the most money they can get now. frick fandom and community strength they say.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:34 am to Duggars23
The stadium will be filled with around 50% of the opposing team's fans every time.
That being said, when do the Saints play in Vegas.
That being said, when do the Saints play in Vegas.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:38 am to ctiger69
Raiders had a rally, a whole 50 people showed up.lol And some of the 50 could of been tourists.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:49 pm to SeeeeK
Raiders fans on Sportscenter said they are done with the team last night.
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