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What would the current healthcare situation in America be if Obamacare wasn't passed?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 12:53 pm
Let's say Obama didn't pass his signature law and today the healthcare industry was exactly like it was pre-Obama. What would that look like? Would it have been sustainable in the long term? Would the Republicans still be trying to pass their own version of the law, or would they have preferred to not touch it and let the status quo continue?
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 12:54 pm
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 12:59 pm to Street Hawk
R's wouldn't touch it.
We'd have more nominally uninsured people, but fewer people facing financial barriers to access, since the older, more affordable plans with lower premiums and deductibles would still be available. (Gallup began tracking a question in 2001 where they asked people if they had gone without health care due to cost in the past year, and Obamacare increased the percentage of people saying yes.)
We'd have more nominally uninsured people, but fewer people facing financial barriers to access, since the older, more affordable plans with lower premiums and deductibles would still be available. (Gallup began tracking a question in 2001 where they asked people if they had gone without health care due to cost in the past year, and Obamacare increased the percentage of people saying yes.)
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:07 pm to Street Hawk
About where we are now.
People get sick and they go to the hospital. Whether poor people have "free" Obamacare or no insurance at all, healthcare is still very expensive and taxpayers are footing the bill.
Look at some of the projections pre-2008. They projected it would cost around $20,000 to insure a family of 4 today.
People get sick and they go to the hospital. Whether poor people have "free" Obamacare or no insurance at all, healthcare is still very expensive and taxpayers are footing the bill.
Look at some of the projections pre-2008. They projected it would cost around $20,000 to insure a family of 4 today.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:15 pm to Street Hawk
Well, I know I would still have blue cross as insurance if it hadn't been passed
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:19 pm to Street Hawk
I'd have an extra 15K in my checking account. I'd probably go ahead and trade in my 5 year old Lexus for a new one instead of waiting till next year.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:21 pm to Street Hawk
I don't know and neither do you. What point are you trying to make?
However, I think both sides agreed that a change was needed. But if the GOP had come up with the exact same plan, the Dems would be railing against it and the GOP would be defending it to their death. I am fairly certain of that based upon recent political norms.
i also know that there are many Dems saying it needs to at least be fixed. For once, I wish our political leaders would work together and put a finished product on the table leaving out stuff that panders to their constituencies and fringe groups.
However, I think both sides agreed that a change was needed. But if the GOP had come up with the exact same plan, the Dems would be railing against it and the GOP would be defending it to their death. I am fairly certain of that based upon recent political norms.
i also know that there are many Dems saying it needs to at least be fixed. For once, I wish our political leaders would work together and put a finished product on the table leaving out stuff that panders to their constituencies and fringe groups.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:22 pm to Street Hawk
My insurance would be cheaper, which is the only thing I give a shite about
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:22 pm to Street Hawk
Worse for the lower class
Better for the middle and upper classes
Better for the middle and upper classes
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:30 pm to Street Hawk
Can't say for sure.
However, the SCOTUS deeming it "Constitutional" for government to be able to compel us to do business w/ private companies, simply as a condition of our existence, probably wouldn't have happened.
However, the SCOTUS deeming it "Constitutional" for government to be able to compel us to do business w/ private companies, simply as a condition of our existence, probably wouldn't have happened.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:34 pm to Street Hawk
quote:Obama didn't pass any law. Congress passes law. The president signs it to enact the law (or doesn't).
Let's say Obama didn't pass his signature law
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:04 pm to Street Hawk
Obamacare slowed premium increases. The saying that "obamacare caused the increased costs" is incredibly misleading and doesn't analyze the costs of healthcare prior to the ACA.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:05 pm to Street Hawk
My insurance premiums would likely be about 15% lower.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 3:34 pm to Street Hawk
69% of bankrupts before Obamacare was due to medical bills. That % would have probably went up.
The reason this went down is because people can wait until they get sick to get insurance. That is one of the biggest problems with the ACA.
The reason this went down is because people can wait until they get sick to get insurance. That is one of the biggest problems with the ACA.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:35 pm to Street Hawk
Things were objectively bad before. They got better after the ACA was enacted, but the law needs attention. To the question, things would be double in the toilet at this point had the law never been enacted.
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