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re: Let's talk about military spending
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I don't have to sell it to them. I have to sell it to the American people.
This is another area where we're a victim of our own success. I still see the need for a regular army and regular air force, although certainly it could be structured in a more compact way if we were able to disentangle from treaty obligations and foreign investments with us in the role of Team America: World Police. But, the military is one of those aspects of American life that remains highly popular, highly credible and highly respected by the American people - going back to at least 1981 (with many thanks to Ronaldus Magnus).
And, as I've maintained in this - the reserve and guard components, while great (and cost effective) augments to force, simply can't do all the things the standing forces can do, and certainly not with the short response times of the 21st Century.
Even if we adopted your "activate and train 1 year out of 6" - how is that substantively different from a Regular Army and Air Force approximately 15% of the total army and air force?
Philosphically, I get it - without a standing army/air force, it's much harder to get us into some of these thickets. You're saying that the USN and USMC can handle "most" overseas issues, but they can get into a pickle as well - and it will take much longer to get things spun up in a "real" crisis - longer than we will have, honestly. In a way, Pandora's Box was opened when we kept a large standing military after WWII for the Cold War - it will take generations (if it can be done at all) to revert to a late 1930s structure, which even then would contemplate some regular force structure and a cadre available to build a much larger force around (even though I don't believe we will ever have the luxury of that much time).
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:40 pm to Ace Midnight
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In a way, Pandora's Box was opened when we kept a large standing military after WWII for the Cold War - it will take generations (if it can be done at all) to revert to a late 1930s structure
One counter to your argument is that as the 20th Century progressed, standing armies grew smaller and smaller around the world. I am not advocating a capability development cycle that is based on mirroring, but mass mobilizations seen first in the French Revolution period and later perfected in WWI and WW2 seems to be on their way out.
In this newer environment of smaller armies, what "pickles" could we end up in that couldn't be held steady for 60 days while current activated NG/Reserve unit gets ready and the Reserve/NG unit on deck moves up early?
As the military order of the world evolves we would be foolish to maintain the status quo if changes wouldn't make us more effective and nimble.
Revolutions in supply and logistics prompted by the expansion of 3D printing, automation, and unmanned systems are going to make operations more efficient. Why not see if a reexamination of structure makes sense at the same time?
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:50 pm to Ace Midnight
After World War Two, senior military leaders contemplated ships and planes as far as the could see. And it was good. It was real good.
Soon a peace time draft was started, an idea that in 1940 was bitterly opposed, there was a revolt of the Generals and of the Admirals, and before long President Eisenhower was warning us about influence either sought or unsought by and for the Military Industrial Complex.
It's a big mess, and to tie this note into the thread, the MIC is rocking along and they won't welcome anything that interrupts the gravy train.
Soon a peace time draft was started, an idea that in 1940 was bitterly opposed, there was a revolt of the Generals and of the Admirals, and before long President Eisenhower was warning us about influence either sought or unsought by and for the Military Industrial Complex.
It's a big mess, and to tie this note into the thread, the MIC is rocking along and they won't welcome anything that interrupts the gravy train.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:17 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:What conceivable contingency would require massive amounts of ground and air power immediately?
And, as I've maintained in this - the reserve and guard components, while great (and cost effective) augments to force, simply can't do all the things the standing forces can do, and certainly not with the short response times of the 21st Century.
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