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re: Another Obama appointee blocks Trump Travel ban.. same language as 1st judge

Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43390 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:10 am to
The ban is stupid, pointless, and will not have any positive effect.

Having said that, the blatantly partisan response by these judges to Trumps orders is disturbing to say the least.

"I'm a judge and I think Trump really means it's a Muslim ban, so I'm going to block it." That a legal professional could utter those words, with the knowledge that the overwhelming number of Muslims in the world are completely unaffected by these orders, is sickening.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:14 am to
perhaps Trump should not trot out surrogates that say...

Trump asked me how we could ban Muslims legally (paraphrasing).

and then trot out a Muslim ban.

if the country of origin is the issue why dont we ban countries like France and England, Belgium and Germany where Muslim terrorist hidden within refugees would have an easier route to get to America.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:17 am to
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The ban is stupid, pointless, and will not have any positive effect.


Well sir, that's YOUR opinion.


quote:

Having said that, the blatantly partisan response by these judges to Trumps orders is disturbing to say the least.


The same language.... It shows collusion.


quote:

"I'm a judge and I think Trump really means it's a Muslim ban, so I'm going to block it." That a legal professional could utter those words, with the knowledge that the overwhelming number of Muslims in the world are completely unaffected by these orders, is sickening.



Correct.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:20 am to
quote:

"I'm a judge and I think Trump really means it's a Muslim ban, so I'm going to block it." That a legal professional could utter those words, with the knowledge that the overwhelming number of Muslims in the world are completely unaffected by these orders, is sickening.

It is a bastardization of the entire legal system to its very core, not to mention an affront to the very system of checks and balances. This issue needs to be dragged before SCOTUS as soon as possible. Although knowing the activist judges on that bench, it will likely end up in a 4-4 split confirming the jacked up 9th Circuit.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I'm a judge and I think Trump really means it's a Muslim ban, so I'm going to block it." That a legal professional could utter those words, with the knowledge that the overwhelming number of Muslims in the world are completely unaffected by these orders, is sickening.

Or maybe they're considering the "there shall be no religious test" constitutional thingy.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:42 am to
quote:

the blatantly partisan response by these judges to Trumps orders is disturbing to say the least.

"I'm a judge and I think Trump really means it's a Muslim ban, so I'm going to block it." That a legal professional could utter those words, with the knowledge that the overwhelming number of Muslims in the world are completely unaffected by these orders, is sickening.


That's the most jarring thing to me. Like I said in the last thread, we've truly reached the point in the legal and intelligence communities where scoring points for your side is more important than national security and sovereignty. USUALLY, no matter how partisan sane folks are, they'll draw the line at the criteria.
Posted by skiptumahloo
Member since Mar 2017
714 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

The ban is stupid, pointless, and will not have any positive effect.

Having said that, the blatantly partisan response by these judges to Trumps orders is disturbing to say the least.

"I'm a judge and I think Trump really means it's a Muslim ban, so I'm going to block it." That a legal professional could utter those words, with the knowledge that the overwhelming number of Muslims in the world are completely unaffected by these orders, is sickening.


The ban only applies to muslim majority countries, and no one in the US has ever been killed by a terrorist from those countries. Meanwhile, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan are NOT on the list despite nearly all terrorists to attack in the US coming from one of those three. No reasonable person could possible conclude that the motivation for this ban is national security.

Even if he'd never said a word about a muslim ban during the election, it'd be obvious what this was really about. Of course, the fact that Trump DID repeatedly promise a muslim ban during the campaign is absolutely relevant to the case, so there's no reason the judges shouldn't mention it in their decisions.
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