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How to determine if property is wetlands?

Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:34 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:34 pm
How do you know if land is considered wetlands. I found a piece of property I am interested in, it was clear cut about 25 years Ago but has grown up and had nothing done to it since. There is no current address, and the agent isn't sure. Is there anyway I can find out? She hasn't put signs out on this property but id bet dollars to donuts it sells the moment she does.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:36 pm to
Wetland delineation via a trustworthy environmental consultant. I'd recommend C-K in BR.

Can also check USFWS National Wetlands Inventory Map to get a maybe. NRCS Web Spil Survey will tell if soils are hydric or not but the soil survey won't necessarily tell you if wet. The delineation will tell you if it's wet or not based on USACE/EPA guidelines.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Big_country346
Member since Jul 2013
3635 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:46 pm to
Catch it on a day when it hadn't rained for a few days. Walk across the property.

Did you lose a boot or get wet feet?

No- good. Buy that shite before she puts the sign up.

Yes- frick that shite. Wetlands baw.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37572 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:49 pm to
I've always understood it's if the area retains water naturally all the time except for periods of extended or extreme drought
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:56 pm to
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Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:18 pm to
A consultant is going to be your best option. Do you have access to the property? Most consultants use plant life to determine wetlands. I don't know that area well, but in Florida I always used saw palmetto as a key indicator I was in the transition area between wetland to uplands. It's kind of an art, one palmetto might not mean much but if you get in an area with several you know your probable on the edge of what would be considered a wetland. Also if you can get access to infrared aerials the wetland areas will generally stand out.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:50 pm to
Call NRCS and get them to check a map for you, or go here, click "start wss", and find the property

Those are quick ways to check before getting a consultant out there. They check for presence of present or past water, look at the soil type, and check out vegetation to determine if it is a wetland or not. If it doesn't hold water, the soil is the main qualifier.
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So if you are interested in a property they will check it out for you before the close?
Believe it or not, almost all of the continental US has been walked and soil samples have been taken pretty much everywhere. That data was written down and NRCS has these big paper maps in the local offices. Those maps were recently put into the Web Soil Survey. It really is amazing to think that a couple of good ol baws walked around the entire country and dug holes every couple of yards
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 11:58 pm
Posted by Tom Selleck
Member since Jan 2010
670 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:08 am to
Go to local NRCS office. They can tell you for free and in a few minutes.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12722 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:41 am to
You will pay a pretty penny to have a consultant do a delineation.

Best bet is to find someone that used to do it that will do a preliminary look for free. I do those every now and then.

As for NRCS, that depends on the property. If it was ever in AG production, it will hage a determination. Depending on how old it is, it may be valid, it may not for Corps of Engineers purposes. NRCS determinations are for food security act compliance, so it could be 15 years old and still be good in their eyes.

With the Corps, that isn't the same story. A jurisdictional determination is only valid for 5 years.

Also, anyone that just looks at a map or soils map and tells you its wet or nonwet is doing you a disservice. There are very few instances where you can make a determination based on maps and soils solely, and those are typically things like marshes, swamps, etc. At best, they SHOULD only be telling you if it potentially has wetlands.

That's just my opinion, but that is the way I always worked with customers. Maps only tell you so much, and even NRCS will tell you field data should be taken to confirm soils. You can expand that to plants and hydrology as well. You need all 3 for a wetland.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:42 am
Posted by OMWsux
Member since Jan 2015
166 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:45 am to
Get a delineation done. You can get into some serious money if you have buy mitigation banking.
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:54 am to
contact tenfoe!
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:05 pm to
If Tenfoe can't get you what you need for some reason, contact me at lsuengr1@gmail.com. I am a civil engineer who designs residential and commercial developments. I have a guy who will do it on the side for cheap that I recommend to guys like you that aren't doing developments.
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