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I think we have to assume Haason Reddick is a real possibility at 11.

Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:27 pm
He is absolutely flying up draftniks draft boards. Big trend for him, I'm even seeing him at 11,12,13 with some regularity. I wouldn't be surprised if there's talk of him in the top 10. Generally this is just the amateurs catching up to what teams know.

Here we have a guy that was ULTRA productive, and then backed that production up with a spectacular combine. He is an elite pass rusher in college with a great skillet. He's played, DB, LB and DE so he's had training at all three levels.

The problem with us, obviously, is fit. He doesn't. He's small. No chance he can play 4-3 DE. At best he'd play WILL, which many think might be his best fit. He'd be a situational pass rusher at first.

But who cares where we get the pass rush from as long as we get it? If he can be an elite rusher... Do it. You can still draft a 43DE and a CB early.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18742 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:28 pm to
& if that happens I'll be freaking pissed off
Posted by Tigeralltheway
Member since Jan 2014
2619 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:34 pm to
So why pick him? Too small (DE) and too big (LB) for our style of play.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:35 pm to
He's not too big for OLB. He's 237. He'd be fine as a WILL. I don't know. We keep talking about pass rush and this guy might be the best pass rusher in the draft.

And Rob Rang now has him going 9 to Cincy. He's skyrocketing up.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
281616 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:36 pm to
reminds me of Mingo a bit, and as you said, i dont think he fits. Would rather a more traditional OLB or DE
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:37 pm to
The more profiles I read the more people say he can be a 43 Will or a 34 ILB.

I think I might be wrong on fit.
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
5081 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:41 pm to
A sightly taller Elvis Dumervil clone IMO
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
281616 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:50 pm to
He's better in space then that. I dont think he's going to be much of a pass rusher.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
12655 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:23 pm to
Never comfortable with guys who "fly up draft boards" based on the combines. I guess I always fear the Mike Mamula type.
Posted by JayWalkTiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2014
794 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:32 am to
He is nowhere near the best pass rusher in the draft. Garret, barnett, williams, mckinley, mcdowell, smoot, ejuan price, derek rivers, just naming a few off the top of my head.

He is a great pass rusher, for a LB. Which is where his hype is coming from. He'd give versatility at that will LB spot, he can blitz effectively and has the athleticism and size to cover tight ends with ease , as well a being a solid tackler.
Posted by JayWalkTiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2014
794 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:32 am to
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
33556 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:15 am to
quote:

He'd give versatility at that will LB spot, he can blitz effectively and has the athleticism and size to cover tight ends with ease , as well a being a solid tackler.


That is a skill set that is hard to find. If that's true, then I'd be okay with the pick.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Never comfortable with guys who "fly up draft boards" based on the combines. I guess I always fear the Mike Mamula type.


Well, first of all, he produced elite numbers to go with his elite athleticism displayed in workouts.

2nd, most nfl scout people will tell you that guys generally only "fly up draft boards" among the amateur draftniks and TV people. Those people are generally catching up with what the NFL people already think, and their boards don't move a whole lot.

Sometimes players move when their production is great but doubts about athleticism, and then those doubts are put at ease.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14305 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:55 am to
quote:

he can blitz effectively and has the athleticism and size to cover tight ends with ease , as well a being a solid tackler.


Sounds like a safe pick.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
170216 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:58 am to
I'd love for the Saints to make a big play moving up from their 2nd round spot into the first round... late teens early 20's.

End up with 3 1st round picks.

Some combination of DE, OLB, TE.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:58 am to
He played DB in high school, played OLB to start his career in college, and then played as an undersized DE his last two years in college where he produced pretty elite numbers at Temple.

Interestingly enough he was injured in HS his junior and senior years and had to walk-on at Temple.

He worked himself into being a high first round draft pick from a walk-on.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14305 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:05 am to
quote:

I'd love for the Saints to make a big play moving up from their 2nd round spot into the first round... late teens early 20's.

End up with 3 1st round picks.

Some combination of DE, OLB, TE.


As long as they like the options at CB & S in the 3rd round. We would probably have to give up our 2018 2nd round pick to do so.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
170216 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:11 am to
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CB


if we resign Moore, we honestly have plenty of depth and good quality at cb.

Breaux
PJ
Crawley
Moore
Harris
Swann?
San Jose St guys
And we all still hope we get a flyer on Claiborne.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by JayWalkTiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2014
794 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:13 am to
The problem is, he didn't play linebacker in college, he exclusively played D end. But at 6'1 235, that ain't happening in the NFL. So teams are projecting him as a will or 3-4 ILB/rover, due to his ideal size and athleticism for a LB. He also was a walk on at temple and had to earn a scholarship after a couple of years. So he is raw, and would be new to the position. Which are the risks.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 11:13 am
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