quote:
I feel like OMLandshark is sensationalizing Frollo a bit. He's definitely up there with Scar. But to say Scar is understandable, at least compared to Frollo, is silly. They each have their justifications (years of jealousy and religious compulsion, respectively), which is why they are so compelling. But Scar desired power to the point that he killed his brother who clearly was wary of him, but who also clearly loved him. He also tried to kill his nephew. Then he subjugated an entire kingdom and ruled over them in a militaristic and authoritarian manner remiscent of Nazi Germany and the Stalin's Russia.

But to get true power is something that is grand and understandable. It's just an end goal he will go to any lengths to achieve. Sadly most people in power can probably identify with Scar on that.

quote:
Frollo tried to burn Paris and failed.

I think he was pretty successful at that.

quote:
He desired a woman to the point that he would destroy the city he lived in to get her. He did desire to purge the city of witchcraft and sorcery, but that pales in comparison to what Scar did and, particularly, what Jafar tried to do. Both of these characters tried or did subjugate a whole population (or worse).

Frollo was a genocidal maniac who planned to execute every single gypsy in the city. His motives are much more petty than Scar or Jafar's, and he thinks he is morally justified in everything he does. Like for instance when a family couldn't help him find Esmerelda, he locked them in their house and lit it on fire. I just don't see Scar or Jafar going out of their way to do something that god damn evil for no real reason. Hell his whole musical number is about being morally justified for rape and murder.

2 ...

Report Post

Posted by nes2010

Member since Jun 2014

6778 posts

Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:15 pm to OMLandshark

Another one that no one has mentioned is the Horned King from The Black Cauldron.
He wanted to raise an army of the undead to wipe out all living things. Not a specific person or a race or even all humans, every living thing.

This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 12:19 pm

0 ...

Report Post

Posted by LoveThatMoney

Who knows where?

Member since Jan 2008

12268 posts

Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:53 pm to OMLandshark

quote:
I just don't see Scar or Jafar going out of their way to do something that god damn evil for no real reason.

I guess I just disagree. I could easily see Scar killing someone for not, in his view, cooperating with him. And Jafar would just blink them out of existence if he could. If he had stopped his wishes at "the most powerful sorcerer in the world," he would have killed anyone and everyone at a whim, and, because he had the power to do so, it would have been done in the blink of an eye and he wouldn't have he thought about them again afterward.

ETA: now I will say this is extrapolating out based on their character and they did not actually do these things on screen. Frollo did do the things you said on screen. Which is why I said in my earlier post that the depiction of Frollo was far more sinister (i.e. you see all the evil he's capable of in far more detail) than Scar or Jafar, but I think taking the characteristics of Scar and Jafar and extrapolating out what they would do, Jafar easily outstrips any other competition and Scar (and this is depicted on screen) does accomplish perhaps the worst thing in Disney villainy when he basically enslaves the entire kingdom.

This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 3:01 pm

3 ...

Report Post

Movie/TV Board - Replies to Post

Return To Board

Page 1

Return To Board