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re: Remember the NeverTrumpers screaming about Trump being a fake conservative?

Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:35 pm to
First, disagreeing with an aspect of conservatism does not make one non-conservative. There are variants of conservatism. The main one talked about here is Fiscal(though not understood).

Conservatism morphed under Clinton due to the social issues facing that time. Social conservatives came to the front lines.

Since the Obama Admin, the people who claimed to be conservative gave in to many liberal social issues. For the sake of the GOP... they sought to push those people out. If you accept LBGT as normal, you are NOT conservative by your own logic.

Nigel Farage said something GREAT at CPAC. He stated (paraphrase) that we are seeing the return of Nation states. Globalism is a new endeavor. Turning back toward Statehood is a conservative idea.

There is Liberal Conservatism that exalts three tenets of Burkean conservatism, namely the diffidence toward the power of the state, the preference of liberty over equality and patriotism, while rejecting the three remaining tenets, namely loyalty to traditional institutions and hierarchies, scepticism regarding progress and elitism.

It is the Liberal Conservatism that the GOP adopted. it is what MOST here have been taught and believe conservatism to be.

Fiscal conservatism states that government action should focus on moral and social questions and oppose government action to help the poor, to regulate the economy, or to protect the environment. They believe that government programs that seek to provide services and opportunities for the poor actually encourage dependence and reduce self-reliance. It is a political-economic philosophy regarding fiscal policy and fiscal responsibility advocating low taxes, reduced government spending and minimal government debt. Free trade, deregulation of the economy, lower taxes, and privatization are defining qualities of fiscal conservatism. Fiscal conservatism follows the same philosophical outlook of classical liberalism and economic liberalism regarding fiscal matters.

The last one I want to talk about is National conservatism. It is heavily oriented towards the traditional family and social stability as well as in favour of limiting immigration.


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