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re: Protectionism is not the answer
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:26 am to MrCarton
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:26 am to MrCarton
quote:
Just stop man. for the love of god.
Free trade means that markets can "fight back" for themselves. If China wants to "dump" steel, then the free trade solution is to allow people to buy cheap steel. The government attempt to protect Americans who produce steel is not "leveling the playing field", it's actually hurting the CONSUMERS of steel for the benefit of the employees or Producers of steel. there is nothing fair about free markets, and nothing free about fair markets
So the solution is to buy cheap steel fine and let consumers save money? You let a foreign govt. cripple a major industry and possible kill it so consumers at home can reap the rewards.
Ok fine, then what do you do when all the steel is foreign and they decide to leverage that against us. Do you just let consumers take it below the belt and pay obscene prices now?
And what happens to all the employees who got laid off by the steel companies locally? They wind up getting public assistance, or possibly taking lesser paying jobs and in the end the govt. and yes the taxpayers gets hammered all because a foreign government undercut the market.
If a foreign govt. is attacking our private businesses, our govt. should fight back. Letting a foreign govt. run unabated over the markets is a serious threat to our economy and can be a serious threat to our national security.
Remember OPEC? Remember the Carter years?
Free trade is no longer free trade when one of the trading partners is cheating.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:37 am to doubleb
quote:Sure.
You let a foreign govt. cripple a major industry and possible kill it so consumers at home can reap the rewards.
quote:No, I would expect the market to respond, and that industry would come back to life naturally. Fortunately for us we have the ability to respond quickly.
Ok fine, then what do you do when all the steel is foreign and they decide to leverage that against us. Do you just let consumers take it below the belt and pay obscene prices now?
quote:Find another job. Crazy.
And what happens to all the employees who got laid off by the steel companies locally?
quote:Well then we better ban technology and innovation since it does the very same thing.
They wind up getting public assistance, or possibly taking lesser paying jobs and in the end the govt. and yes the taxpayers gets hammered all because a foreign government undercut the market.
quote:The government is our savior, huh? That's the type of mentality I expect from socialists, not the other side.
If a foreign govt. is attacking our private businesses, our govt. should fight back.
quote:Maybe in rare exceptions, but the statists love this argument.
and can be a serious threat to our national security.
quote:And what had changed since then? More energy independence, maybe?
Remember OPEC? Remember the Carter years?
quote:But responding with anti-free trade policies, is a step further away from it.
Free trade is no longer free trade when one of the trading partners is cheating.
People can support that, but it's dishonest to pretend that they are for free trade when they advocate for policies further from it.
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