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re: WOTR - Unspoken Legacy: The Perils of Letting Obama Off the Hook...

Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:13 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42868 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:13 am to
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Remember, the United States is not at war with Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, or Yemen. After 15 years of strife, it seems Americans became numb to just how unprecedented this is – violating airspace to kill foreign nationals in sovereign nations on a weekly basis.

Unless a country is robust in its efforts to ferret out those who plan attacks on us or our existential interests - or at least cooperates with us on our efforts to curtail it -then I have no problem going alone into their sovereign areas to do the job for them. I would prefer they take the lead in eradicating such vermin.

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However, militants’ family members and other innocent bystanders also perished.

I have no problem with this as long as it is not wanton. As long as the terrorists hide themselves amongst their family as human shields, then when necessity demands it, the family becomes collateral damage. Sad, but acceptable.

I will repeat what I said when Bill Clinton bombed the terrorist camps the day after his perjury was exposed = "it is never a bad time to attack terrorism." It did turn out that those attacks were ineffectual, but at the time it seemed appropriate - even though it was evident he was using it to deflect from his own problems.

As far as national security goes, I am not averse to presidential executive power. When national security is at stake, there is not time for long deliberation to ascertain the absolute perfect strategy. You need good men in place whose instincts you trust. And the background to have anticipated potential attacks and have designed applicable plans ready for immediate execution. And national security must be foremost in determining the correct action - with absolutely no consideration of the effects on domestic social agenda.

I am absolutely against any executive action to promote a social agenda. When you are trying to change a long traditional culture, it should be a slow evolutionary deliberative process and never a response to some mob demand on the spur of the moment - or seizure of some 'opportunity' to bypass the evolutionary nature of social change.

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he maintained composure and presidential poise, no matter the topic. In rare moments of frustration, Obama channeled “disappointed sitcom dad” rather than “blustering bully.” Love him or hate him, Obama was a gentleman. And that’s the problem.

To cast Obama's foreign policy as anything but feckless, ineffective, and dangerous to long term security is just wrong.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64754 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:52 am to
So the Obama administration had no influence on the Arab Spring, the failings in Libya, Syria, Iraq, or the over running of Europe by middle eastern nations or the continued conflict in Afghanistan? Because we are not warring?

Give a second medal.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 8:54 am
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