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re: Reuters:Mexico will not accept new US immigration policies
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:12 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:12 pm to KosmoCramer
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Exactly. I highly doubt we can force them to take central American illegals over their border.
Ho will Mexico stop us from sending them back across, build a wall or something?
Hmmmmm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:14 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:That also begs the question... if Mexico can control their side of the border to prevent us from sending them back, why aren't they preventing their people from crossing illegally?
Ho will Mexico stop us from sending them back across, build a wall or something?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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If you think they're disrespectful of our sovereignty now, just wait until we totally disregard theirs.
To what are you referring?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:25 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Except that they're cooperating with us by identifying who are Mexican nationals, and letting them back in. They don't have to actually do that.
The lack of logic is astounding. The U.S. is wrong for removing Mexican illegals but Mexico would be fine to not take their own citizens back.
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And again, net immigration of Mexicans from Mexico has been near ZERO for the past 6 years.
It's illegal immigration we are concerned with...not immigration.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:26 pm to moneyg
we should set up some of those drug catapults and just send them back that way
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:48 pm to MizzouBS
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If we spent a minimum of $1000 a piece on sending the rest back it would cost over $6 billion. That is a third of what a wall would cost.
And would still cost way more to keep them here.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:48 pm to FooManChoo
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Just saw another thread created saying 60% of our illegal immigrants are from Mexico
Yes, most of whom have been here for longer than 10 years.
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Why wouldn't they just encourage their people to come here legally if they want to?
Maybe Mexico doesn't really want them to leave Mexico.
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How in the world are we disregarding their sovereignty by telling them to stop sending people here illegally?
I dunno, maybe by shooting their residents dead across the border? That's one way at least. Threatening them that they are going to pay for a wall that we want?
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We aren't telling them what they should do with their own borders.
Yes, we are. We've been telling them for years to shore up their southern border, and now that they have begun to, we're going to remove their incentive to do so. That doesn't make sense to me.
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If they started sending buses through, they would be certainly overplaying their hand.
My point wasn't that they would start with that, but that that would be their response to us overplaying our hand.
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There's a lot of risk of them getting off the bus on the way to the US border.
Not much, Mexico isn't a destination for labor.
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The drug cartels own Mexico.
Not yet, they don't. I think a lot of you are exaggerating problems that may already exist, but have the potential to get FAR worse if their state completely collapses.
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If Mexico doesn't like it, they can do a better job of preventing their own people from wanting to leave the country
Now you're actually starting to address the solution to the problem. The solution isn't a wall, the solution to this economic problem is an economic one. Ruining economic relations with Mexico would exacerbate the problem, not ameliorate it.
Devastating the Mexican economy, and having their government collapse into a true narco-terrorist dictatorship is NOT in our best interests. It's just that it sounds tough to talk like that and everyone wants to think of themselves as some sort of tough guys - well, not everyone, just the insecure ones.
There are better ways to deal with Mexico than crashing their state.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Why did you misquote me? Is that what it takes for your point to have validity?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:53 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:00 pm to bamarep
frick Mexico and their government.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:06 pm to bamarep
frick Mexico.
They are showing us daily why they are not our friend and why we should not be rolling out the red carpet for them.
They are showing us daily why they are not our friend and why we should not be rolling out the red carpet for them.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:13 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Good for them
They know donnie is all bluster
Didn't liberals complain about republicans and conservatives giving foreign leaders hummers every time American President Obama ran into a setback with aforementioned foreign leader?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:26 pm to Scruffy
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I want to see massive cooperation preventing illegal entry into the USA.
Me too. Unfortunately, that's what we're NOT promoting with our rhetoric.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Not yet, they don't
You really dont know anything then if this is what you are claiming
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Mexico can't even deal with drug lords. How are they going to help us deal with illegal immigration that actually benefits them.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:37 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why wouldn't they just encourage their people to come here legally if they want to?
Maybe Mexico doesn't really want them to leave Mexico.
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How in the world are we disregarding their sovereignty by telling them to stop sending people here illegally?
I dunno, maybe by shooting their residents dead across the border? That's one way at least. Threatening them that they are going to pay for a wall that we want?
Maybe Mexico doesn't want them to leave? You are really grasping at straws with that stupid comment. NO, NO, stay here... don't help our economy while reducing our burden.
Your second response I quoted is so stupid is as if you have no comprehension of the English language are answering something that wasn't even asked or stated!!!
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:43 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Ho will Mexico stop us from sending them back across, build a wall or something?
Or just stop the bus at the border crossing, I don't think the US is going to drop them in the middle of the desert and say sneak back in.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:51 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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. The US could be inundated with cheap illegal drugs from Mexico
Are you trying to be serious here? Surely this is a joke.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:04 pm to moneyg
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The lack of logic is astounding. The U.S. is wrong for removing Mexican illegals but Mexico would be fine to not take their own citizens back.
I agree, that logic is astounding, and flawed.
Luckily it doesn't address my point.
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they're cooperating with us by identifying who are Mexican nationals, and letting them back in. They don't have to actually do that.
We have SOME cooperation now, we want to encourage more. We are NOT encouraging more currently with our belligerent attitude.
Mexico has some semblance of a functioning government. If their economy fails completely, we could be looking at a totally failed state, a la El Salvador, Venezuela, etc..., right on our border. That doesn't serve our interest. What does serve our interest is helping Mexico build their economy up, thereby providing Mexicans with incentive to stay in Mexico.
I favor economic solutions with Mexico that are not punitive, and would not work to destabilize our neighbor further.
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It's illegal immigration we are concerned with...not immigration.
It's astounding to me how so many of y'all can have such strong opinions on a subject of which you seem to have so little understanding.
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