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Are you a Paleocon?

Posted on 2/21/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164535 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 11:09 am
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Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleocon) is a conservative political philosophy found primarily in the United States stressing tradition, limited government and civil society, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.

Paleoconservatives press for restrictions on immigration, a rollback of multicultural programmes, the decentralization of the federal policy, the restoration of controls upon free trade, a greater emphasis upon economic nationalism and isolationism in the conduct of American foreign policy, and a generally revanchist outlook upon a social order in need of recovering old lines of distinction and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69421 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 11:11 am to
Not on economics.

Employees don't deserve to have monopoly powers
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Are you a Paleocon


Seems like some crossfit shite.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111714 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 11:23 am to
Mostly. I'm not doctrinally committed to free trade but I'm not doctrinally committed to a lot of controls on it either

Nationalism and isolationism are good until they aren't.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 11:23 am to
Yes, 100%. My dream President would be Pat Buchanan. I am not kidding.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2923 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:38 pm to
It's the term I've used to identify my political beliefs for quite a few years. We just need the next Pat Buchanan to step up and I think people will gravitate towards it.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7785 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:56 pm to
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a generally revanchist outlook upon a social order in need of recovering old lines of distinction and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race.


What does this nebulous statement mean?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67517 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:56 pm to
I'm a traditional conservative
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and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race.

The left reads this as sexist, racist and go pick some cotton and shut up.
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1703 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:12 pm to
Have heard the term for about a half dozen years, but never got a definition of what it meant before.

Badly named, in my opinion. If you are going to try and distinguish yourself from Conservatism - at least come up with something that is understandable as part of the word or name, ie Constitutional Conservative or Pro-Life Conservative, etc...
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112667 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:13 pm to
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generally revanchist


Nope. I'm a lapsed Catholic.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24837 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleocon) is a conservative political philosophy found primarily in the United States stressing tradition, limited government and civil society, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.


Sounds good so far...

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Paleoconservatives press for restrictions on immigration, a rollback of multicultural programmes, the decentralization of the federal policy


Still good...

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he restoration of controls upon free trade, a greater emphasis upon economic nationalism and isolationism in the conduct of American foreign policy, and a generally revanchist outlook upon a social order in need of recovering old lines of distinction and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race.


Ahh, you lost me.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41278 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:18 pm to
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stressing tradition
Nope

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limited government and civil society
Yep

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along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.
Nope

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restrictions on immigration
No

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rollback of multicultural programmes
Not sure what this means

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the decentralization of the federal policy
Yep

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restoration of controls upon free trade
You can't control free trade.

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greater emphasis upon economic nationalism and isolationism in the conduct of American foreign policy
No and Yes

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a generally revanchist outlook upon a social order in need of recovering old lines of distinction and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race
Nope
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41829 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:36 pm to
When did social Conservative or economic Conservative fall out of favor for discussing aspects of Conservatism? Never heard this term before in my life.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:03 pm to
#BenOpt for the win/surrender
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:13 pm to
Not even close.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Are you a Paleocon?



I check all the boxes for one.

quote:

Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleocon) is a conservative political philosophy found primarily in the United States stressing tradition, limited government and civil society, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.

Paleoconservatives press for restrictions on immigration, a rollback of multicultural programmes, the decentralization of the federal policy, the restoration of controls upon free trade, a greater emphasis upon economic nationalism and isolationism in the conduct of American foreign policy, and a generally revanchist outlook upon a social order in need of recovering old lines of distinction and in particular the assignment of roles in accordance with traditional categories of gender, ethnicity, and race.


The bold is wrongly worded, it shouldn't be isolationism, it should be non interventionism as interfering with the soverign affairs of a country has gotten us in deep shite.

Seek commerce with all, alliance with none.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68528 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:56 am to
I'm built out of a lot of Paleocon lumber.

But I've also got a few sticks from the alt-right forrest and some an-cap jungle wood too.
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