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re: So Obama had our spooks spying on Trump's people.

Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:25 am to
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:25 am to
It appears clear to me that the NSA was running an op on the Trump campaign and the information that was collected is going to be strategically released In cooperation with the media to destabilize the Trump admin and maybe even take down the Trump admin.

Too many powerful entities lined up against Trump. The harder he fights them, the worse they will get.

We used to say elections matter. We see now that they don't.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:26 am to
Is that going to be the narrative going forward?

Giving up a month into winning time? Some of you really are spineless pussies.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:27 am to
This is turning out to be a Coup organized by the establishment.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48504 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:38 am to
quote:

We used to say elections matter. We see now that they don't.


That is the goal of the Left -- to fill the FedGov bureaucracy with people who favor the Democrat world view. The bureaucracy is the Un elected Fourth Branch of FedGov.
The objective is to make change impossible if an Outsider takes the WH, because the bureaucracy will function as it did before the election.

When an Outsider like Trump takes the WH, it will be a long and difficult slog against the entrenched Establishment to make some changes.

So, it is a given that Democrats in and out of govt and the Propaganda Ministry of the Democrats known as the MSM are going to struggle mightily against the Outsider. The Outsider represents a threat to more promotions, more raises and more job opportunities for those near Wash DC who like to make a very prosperous living from FedGov employment.

There is a reason why some of the wealthiest counties in the USA surround Wash DC -- the FedGov bureaucracy is a huge Gravy Train and the Train Riders will strongly resist any and all attempts to halt the Gravy Train.

Military staffers who work in the Wash DC area occasionally throughout their military careers are VERY motivated to keep the Gravy Train going. They have a good chance to get hired on at FedGov after military retirement and eventually to collect TWO fat FedGov pensions -- one military and one for FedGov civilian work.

The law changed just over ten years ago -- NOW a person can take two full pensions -- military and FedGov civilian. Law used to be that you had to pick one or the other -- no "double-dipping".

So, you will see MANY military careerists who LOVE Big FedGov because they want to collect two fat FedGov pensions. These folks favor Democrats because of the monetary gain they will reap as FedGov keeps growing, spending, hiring and promoting.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 9:44 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147360 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:07 am to
In all of this mess; many are saying this is The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn.

Some have said, the rest of Trumps cabinet are next, until he is done.

America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying.

Look @ what Politico has headlined today...

KAC is the next target. Morning Joe is an obedient little prick, isn't he?

Have TV media had their fill of Kellyanne? - POLITICO
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:46 am to
Do you guys hold Trump accountable for anything at all? Here is why there is a perception of malfeasance:

-Trump praised Putin during the campaign
-There is evidence that Russia targeted the DNC, Trump's opposition
-The head of Trump's campaign had to resign due to his Russia ties
-Trump (against all common sense) appoints a man with ties to Russia as his National Security Adviser
-Trump verbally attacks NATO (while praising Putin)

Couple these things with the lack of traditional transparency such as with tax return release and it is very obvious there is smoke for the whole world to see. If YOU can't see that there is at least the appearance of malfeasance then you are a shill who would go to bad for the administration regardless...which means your opinion really doesn't matter anyway.


Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

We used to say elections matter. We see now that they don't.


They matter a lot less now that the progressives have managed to infest the judiciary with activist hacks, expanded the bureaucracies, and filled them with shameless leftists.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35662 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:07 am to
quote:

We used to say elections matter. We see now that they don't.


Who knew?
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24779 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:40 am to
quote:

The harder he fights them, the worse they will get.


You really haven't been paying attention, have you?

How many times has Trump been pronounced DOA? I've lost count. What makes you think this latest attempt to undermine him is going to work? It will get his detractors riled up, for sure, but he will go straight to the American people, and politicians are going to politic, and they'll toe the line when it their constituents start getting upset with them.
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