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re: Mike Mayock's 2017 NFL Draft position rankings

Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:29 pm to
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So that means he has never won?



My point was, he's never, that I've seen, taken over a game and won it himself. He's not the guy I would ever want with the ball in his hand with 2 minutes to go down by 4.

Deshaun Watson is that guy.

ETA:

Winner in the colloquial sense. "I want that guy on my team, he's a winner".

Jordan Jefferson won games at LSU, I don't consider him a winner.


This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:53 pm to
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My point was, he's never, that I've seen, taken over a game and won it himself. He's not the guy I would ever want with the ball in his hand with 2 minutes to go down by 4.

Deshaun Watson is that guy.

ETA:

Winner in the colloquial sense. "I want that guy on my team, he's a winner".

Jordan Jefferson won games at LSU, I don't consider him a winner.



Wait, what? Kizer did exactly that (two minute drives at the end of the game) against two of the three teams you just named, both of them on the road. Take a look at that Clemson game again: ND was down 21 - 3 in the 4th on the road in a hurricane and was a 2 point conversion away from forcing OT. For that matter, Kizer absolutely outplayed Watson by a lot in that game.
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