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re: The Dutch have a prison problem, too many empty cells

Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16604 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:36 am to
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prefers rehabilitation to incarceration


Generally doesn't work in this country. Recidivism rate is extremely high. Can be contributed to lack of job opportunity after conviction. However, a lot of the offenders didn't exactly have skills that relate to employment before being convicted.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:38 am to
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Generally doesn't work in this country. Recidivism rate is extremely high.





We've never actually tried it.

The Dutch have work release programs and shite. The jails in the US just make people worse.

Clearly our countries are very different, but to even suggest the US has given any decent effort in this arena is farcical.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:44 am to
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Can be contributed to lack of job opportunity after conviction.
well the conviction on their record sure doesn't help the job opportunity
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However, a lot of the offenders didn't exactly have skills that relate to employment before being convicted.
well let's take some of that money used to house these guys and throw it at job training and education before the fact the population falls down the shite rabbit hole

Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 11:13 am to
Here's my explanation about why our prison systems suck in the US:

We take individuals who have demonstrated an inability to be responsible citizens and make productive decisions, lock them up in a facility where they get to make almost no decisions, and then somehow expect that they will make better decisions and be more responsible when they are released. It's insanity, really.
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