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re: Wow, didn't know the 9th circuit has an 80% reversal rate at the Supreme Court

Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:20 am to
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:20 am to
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It's basically telling you how frequently, when this court is asked to weigh in on difficult questions, they get it wrong.


THIS.

The talking point, while it does have validity, that they only send a small percentage of cases to the SC and even though it is an 80% reversal it is marginal.

This assumes all cases are equal. They are not. Especially this case.

It's known and quite obvious which cases the SC will take and a tiered approach needs to be taken when looking at the "only 1%" of the cases that go to the SC of which 80% are overturned.

For the sake of simplicity, lets "assume" this case goes to the supreme court (which it will) and by definition fits the "1%". Which 80% of like cases get overturned. This fits that mold.

The mental gymnastics on this is totally missing the point that all cases are not created equal and is taking statistical validity and its most basic form when in reality more complex layers are needed to analyze.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:25 am to
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Not sure you understand how math works...


There is an entire level of math called Statistics and Qualitative Analysis that people find more valuable than 2 + 2.

The mental gymnastics on this is abhorrent.

Cases, like the one we are discussing, have an 80% rejection rate. We are not talking about the 99% of cases that are not like this one. We are talking about the cases that match the characteristics of this one.
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