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Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Is Using H-1B Visas says The Huffington Post!
Posted on 2/6/17 at 6:24 am
Posted on 2/6/17 at 6:24 am
Huff&Puff bends the knee
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This drafted executive order could actually mean higher wages for both foreign workers and Americans working in Silicon Valley.
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The order aims to overhaul and limit work visas, notably the H-1B visa program. Tech companies rely on these to bring in foreign talent. Their lobbyists claim there is a “talent shortage” among Americans and thus that the industry needs more of such work visas. This is patently false. The truth is that they want an expansion of the H-1B work visa program because they want to hire cheap, immobile labor — i.e., foreign workers.
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A former manager at Oracle accused the firm of justifying underpayment of an H-1B by saying, ‘It’s good money for an Indian.’
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 6:26 am to Placebeaux
One of the first things Hitler did was limit H-1B visas in Germany
Posted on 2/6/17 at 6:27 am to Placebeaux
There are a lot of half-truths here.
Are there some specific skills that are dominated in IT by foreign nationals? Yes.
Are some companies paying them less? Yes, some companies do pay them lower SALARIES on average due to the cost of sponsorship.
Do some companies pay them standard rates, plus sponsorship? Yes
Would some IT companies be short of talent if H1Bs were sent home? Most definitely.
Are there some specific skills that are dominated in IT by foreign nationals? Yes.
Are some companies paying them less? Yes, some companies do pay them lower SALARIES on average due to the cost of sponsorship.
Do some companies pay them standard rates, plus sponsorship? Yes
Would some IT companies be short of talent if H1Bs were sent home? Most definitely.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 7:32 am to Placebeaux
To me its pretty obvious that tech is lining up behind the immigration ban to get in front of the H1B visa EO. Its their primary concern.
Pretty smart move really.
Pretty smart move really.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 7:38 am to Placebeaux
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‘It’s good money for an Indian.’
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:01 am to Placebeaux
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The truth is that they want an expansion of the H-1B work visa program because they want to hire cheap, immobile labor — i.e., foreign workers.
Well, that's presumptuous. Must be an op-ed piece.
As a person who works in the tech sector, I can tell you that a lot of Americans are NOT qualified for several software development positions.
If a guy from India can come in and code for a company, and the alternative is wait for someone who is American a full 6-12 months to get up to speed, in which time the product is no longer viable...
Well, I'm not going to be opposed to getting someone from India.
Sorry, you don't get to claim "they stole mah jerb!" if you aren't capable of doing the damned job to begin with.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:21 am to Placebeaux
H-1B abuse is something both parties are disgusted with. Companies would rather train and develop foreign talent at $60k per year than someone with a green card or an American citizen.....because they'll eventually leave the company if they are underpaid.
Abuse of this work visa is a big reason why we are not developing enough Americans in this industry.
This impacts a shite load of Democrats and Republicans. Trump absolutely has to try to make this work visa about bringing the best and brightest again instead of the cheapest.
Abuse of this work visa is a big reason why we are not developing enough Americans in this industry.
This impacts a shite load of Democrats and Republicans. Trump absolutely has to try to make this work visa about bringing the best and brightest again instead of the cheapest.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 9:26 am
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:23 am to Placebeaux
Trump is right again.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:31 am to Placebeaux
quote:Wait, this was in doubt?
Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Is Using H-1B Visas
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:33 am to Placebeaux
inb4 he calls them all out for their tax havens in Ireland.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:38 am to Placebeaux
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Trump is Right
- Huffington Post
Kiss your loved ones. The end is nigh.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:27 pm to Placebeaux
The number of H1B visas is the same as it has been since around 1990 and it is filled each year in just a few days time. The demand is astronomical and the supply is very small, comparatively, because of regulation.
But, just enforce the law. You don't have to dismantle or reduce the H-1B Visa program. Just enforce it and make sure that these companies only hire foreign workers if they can prove that they can't find American workers. And, they should have to pay competitively or more for foreign workers.
How many companies just farm their work out overseas, though? I know tons of tech companies who farm out work to contractors in India, Indonesia, and South East Asia and then pay them little while reaping the benefit here. It is a lot cheaper to do it that way when it comes to tech work, rather than bring the immigrant over here.
Many of the same people who are against immigrants coming here are fine with paying foreigners pennies on the dollar to do the work overseas while they reap the profits. It is quite a hypocrisy. At least when immigrants come here, their salary gets recirculation in the American economy.
But, just enforce the law. You don't have to dismantle or reduce the H-1B Visa program. Just enforce it and make sure that these companies only hire foreign workers if they can prove that they can't find American workers. And, they should have to pay competitively or more for foreign workers.
How many companies just farm their work out overseas, though? I know tons of tech companies who farm out work to contractors in India, Indonesia, and South East Asia and then pay them little while reaping the benefit here. It is a lot cheaper to do it that way when it comes to tech work, rather than bring the immigrant over here.
Many of the same people who are against immigrants coming here are fine with paying foreigners pennies on the dollar to do the work overseas while they reap the profits. It is quite a hypocrisy. At least when immigrants come here, their salary gets recirculation in the American economy.
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