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re: How many abortions are result of mother's health?

Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:19 pm to
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When in Rome


Thanks!



This proves what I suspected. It's like the pot issue: proponents rally behind medical necessity just as the abortioners do. I say be honest about your position and argue what you truly desire and believe. It's the deception that infuriates me more than anything else.


What I don't get are the GOPers who will fall into this slippery slope argument and say they don't agree to rape, incest and health exceptions. I do understand the rationale that doctors and womens will lie about these issues in order to destroy a baby, but so be it. What they need to do is grant them this point and then instill fraud laws for those caught.


ETA: just saw your post, and it's very similar to my thinking

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Don't get me wrong here, I'm completely against abortion but I realize that people are going to have them anyway so it should be legal. I just wish they would stop calling it "reproductive rights" and call it what it really is - a convenient escape from irresponsible behavior. They can have an abortion if they want just not on my dime.



While I don't agree with the "they will do it anyway" argument to maintain legality of it (might as well legalize theft, rape and such, since those will also be done anyway), you stated exactly my thinking of own up to your true desire and make your case based upon that

This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:23 pm to
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What they need to do is grant them this point and then instill fraud laws for those caught.


I see what youre getting at but theres nothing about this that screams small government. In fact its big government at its finest.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:31 pm to
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While I don't agree with the "they will do it anyway" argument to maintain legality of it (might as well legalize theft, rape and such, since those will also be done anyway), you stated exactly my thinking of own up to your true desire and make your case based upon that

I get your idealistic approach, but it's just not practical at this point. I think the best approach is to keep it legal but try to persuade expecting mothers to go the adoption route. There are thousands of families that are begging to give a child a home.
Posted by When in Rome
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:42 pm to
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It's the deception that infuriates me more than anything else.
The biggest deception is them calling it a woman's right to choose, or a deeply intimate personal decision, or women's reproductive rights. They won't even refer to it as abortion anymore. They used to argue for abortion by trying to pinpoint when the group of cells became a child...now they are so lazy that they won't even go into the issue of whether or not it's killing an infant; they are calling it a "woman's personal decision for herself" and cutting the argument off at the mother (almost as if they are arguing whether or not to cut out a woman's organ). Talk about deceptive.
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