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Does Louisiana have any good basketball talent
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:23 am
While we are piling on Johnny Jones ( well deserved IMHO) maybe we should be looking at a bigger problem. The lack of really good basketball talent coming out of the Gulf South, primarily. Back in the 1980's, the New Orleans area, Mississippi and Baton Rouge wee producing top flight talent for college basketball and most went on to have prety successful NBA careers.
Dwayne Bryant - Georgetown (Nola)
Danny Granger - New Mexico (Metairie)
Jaren Jackson - Georgetown(Nola)
Kerry Kittles - Villanova ( NOLA)
Randy Livingston - LSU(NOLA)
Chris Jackson - LSU ( Gulfport)
Clarence Ceasar - LSU ( Lake Charles)
Vernel Singleton - LSU ( Jackson, MS)
Chris Duhon - Duke ( Slidell)
Rico Gathers - Baylor (Reserve) Les and JJ missed on him
Langston Galloway - St. Joseph's (BR)
Karl Malone - La Tech (Summerfield, LA)- how did Dale miss on him?
Recently we have had a few big men from Louisiana like Jarrell Martin and before him Tyrus Thomas as well as Brandon Bass and Big Baby all out of B.R.
My point is, we are not seeing that kind of talent coming out of Louisiana anymore. Even before these guys there were the likes of Marques Johnson, Rick Roby, Robert Parrish. But recently I'm not seeing the big talent come out of Louisiana....why
Dwayne Bryant - Georgetown (Nola)
Danny Granger - New Mexico (Metairie)
Jaren Jackson - Georgetown(Nola)
Kerry Kittles - Villanova ( NOLA)
Randy Livingston - LSU(NOLA)
Chris Jackson - LSU ( Gulfport)
Clarence Ceasar - LSU ( Lake Charles)
Vernel Singleton - LSU ( Jackson, MS)
Chris Duhon - Duke ( Slidell)
Rico Gathers - Baylor (Reserve) Les and JJ missed on him
Langston Galloway - St. Joseph's (BR)
Karl Malone - La Tech (Summerfield, LA)- how did Dale miss on him?
Recently we have had a few big men from Louisiana like Jarrell Martin and before him Tyrus Thomas as well as Brandon Bass and Big Baby all out of B.R.
My point is, we are not seeing that kind of talent coming out of Louisiana anymore. Even before these guys there were the likes of Marques Johnson, Rick Roby, Robert Parrish. But recently I'm not seeing the big talent come out of Louisiana....why
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 10:24 am
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:26 am to KiwiHead
There's a McD AA from Chalmette this year that JJ let get away. There's still a lot of talent in LA, he's just not correctly identifying it.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:27 am to KiwiHead
There's PLENTY of talent in La. to sustain a consistent tournament contender/participant type program.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:32 am to KiwiHead
quote:
My point is, we are not seeing that kind of talent coming out of Louisiana anymore
Louisiana had 10 players on top 25 teams going into the 2016. That is 13th in the country. Given our population as a state, that is pretty exceptional
Here is a map from the 2014-2015 season:
LINK
There is enough talent in this state alone to be a consistent tournament team, and we'd still be able to attract out of state recruits
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:34 am to KiwiHead
There were 3 players from Louisiana playing in the Pelicans/Magic game last night. Only one of them even got an offer from LSU, and he went play at Texas.
Players you didn't list from LA, that didn't go to LSU but are in the NBA right now
Augustin
Milsap
Monroe
Donald Sloan
Von Wafer
Thadeus Young
Elfrid Peyton
Kelly Oubre Jr
Damian Jones
Robert Sacre
Lousiana is full of talent. Why the hell would you play basketball for the idiots we've had coaching here?
Players you didn't list from LA, that didn't go to LSU but are in the NBA right now
Augustin
Milsap
Monroe
Donald Sloan
Von Wafer
Thadeus Young
Elfrid Peyton
Kelly Oubre Jr
Damian Jones
Robert Sacre
Lousiana is full of talent. Why the hell would you play basketball for the idiots we've had coaching here?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:44 am to KiwiHead
I think it's deceiving, because the men who are staying here are losing by simply being out coached. The talent on the basketball court, much like that on the football field the last several years, has been let down by their coaches. You can see that just by looking at the lack of discipline by the players. Recruit all-world talent. Fine. But there are 25 other schools for football and 125 other schools for basketball in the country doing that. The difference is the coaches.You have to have the right staff in place, or else you'll be 15th in the country every year in football, and 15th in your conference every year in basketball
It has to change, and if Alleva doesn't change, than the powers that be will. BUT FIRST, someone has to get tired of being mediocre and start giving a shite about creating a winning culture in order for it to be where the fanatics would like it to be. Money will have to be spent.
It has to change, and if Alleva doesn't change, than the powers that be will. BUT FIRST, someone has to get tired of being mediocre and start giving a shite about creating a winning culture in order for it to be where the fanatics would like it to be. Money will have to be spent.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:49 am to KiwiHead
post players are at a premium, not much in state talent
guards and wings are plentiful though
guards and wings are plentiful though
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:02 am to KiwiHead
Louisiana produces excellent athletes.... which is why we have such great football talent. Athleticism is far more important in football than basketball.
With that being said (as a whole) Louisiana high school basketball coaches don't develop the talent and aren't teachers of the game. In addition to that, our high school talent tends to be from low income families from lower educated areas.... thus contributing to low basketball IQ.
Simple fact is most talented high school players get into the AAU circuit where the ball is just rolled out on the court and the coaches are actually just glorified agents that negotiate for college scholarships.
With that being said (as a whole) Louisiana high school basketball coaches don't develop the talent and aren't teachers of the game. In addition to that, our high school talent tends to be from low income families from lower educated areas.... thus contributing to low basketball IQ.
Simple fact is most talented high school players get into the AAU circuit where the ball is just rolled out on the court and the coaches are actually just glorified agents that negotiate for college scholarships.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:08 am to KiwiHead
Plenty more guys you could have included that were solid college players:
Chris Duhon-Duke
Greg Monroe-Georgetown
Marcus Fizer- Iowa State
Brandon Mouton-Texas
Hollis Price-Oklahoma
Clarence Moore-GTech
Just to name a few
Those were all nearly within a single recruiting cycle and are the type of guys that could have made a difference if they stayed home
Chris Duhon-Duke
Greg Monroe-Georgetown
Marcus Fizer- Iowa State
Brandon Mouton-Texas
Hollis Price-Oklahoma
Clarence Moore-GTech
Just to name a few
Those were all nearly within a single recruiting cycle and are the type of guys that could have made a difference if they stayed home
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 11:14 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:57 pm to KiwiHead
Louisiana is not a great basketball state. Great athletes, Yes. That can change quickly - baseball went from average to above average to arguably exceptional in just 30 years.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 5:37 pm to KiwiHead
We're a big enough school that should bring enough talent to compete in conference year in and year out. We need better coaching and it's as simple as that.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 5:48 pm to KiwiHead
the team does not play solid basketball.
it has NOTHING to do with the talent.
two years ago they had M and M and TQ. talent aplenty.
they still managed to lose - looking stupid in the process. a reflection on the players and the coach. hair pulling stuff.
I present, the home game vs mighty U of K:
in the home game vs U of K, which was close to the end, TQ stepped over the end line twice in the last two minutes of the game. stupid. just awful. TQ is on the deep bench in the NBA and M and M are pulling down NBA money too.
Oh by the way, LSU led Kentucky in that game but made it into a close loss with a series of floor errors that preceded TQ stepping out of bounds, twice.
sorry to share such "old" details. I can still see the nightmare in my mind's eye.
Same as you all can still see PP7 swiping the ground after the INT and the ball being given back to the other team. We remember EVERYTHING.
it has NOTHING to do with the talent.
two years ago they had M and M and TQ. talent aplenty.
they still managed to lose - looking stupid in the process. a reflection on the players and the coach. hair pulling stuff.
I present, the home game vs mighty U of K:
in the home game vs U of K, which was close to the end, TQ stepped over the end line twice in the last two minutes of the game. stupid. just awful. TQ is on the deep bench in the NBA and M and M are pulling down NBA money too.
Oh by the way, LSU led Kentucky in that game but made it into a close loss with a series of floor errors that preceded TQ stepping out of bounds, twice.
sorry to share such "old" details. I can still see the nightmare in my mind's eye.
Same as you all can still see PP7 swiping the ground after the INT and the ball being given back to the other team. We remember EVERYTHING.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:47 pm to KiwiHead
Yes plenry
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:19 pm to KiwiHead
As long as CT Jr's sperm stays in tact and 20-somethings are still willing to play the part, LSU can always put out good talent.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:27 pm to KiwiHead
ESPN's top 100 from La.
9. Mitchell Robinson- Signed with WKU
71. Galen Alexander- Signed with LSU
72. Josh Anderson- Signed with WKU
In the top 40 class ranking... LSU is not in it. How do we lose 2 top 100 in state players to Western Kentucky.
This is top recruits from Louisiana.
LINK
With the state of the program, LSU should focus on instate talent. I am sure there are 5 players on our roster these 5 recruits from La could replace.. One is going to ULL, one to South Alabama..
9. Mitchell Robinson- Signed with WKU
71. Galen Alexander- Signed with LSU
72. Josh Anderson- Signed with WKU
In the top 40 class ranking... LSU is not in it. How do we lose 2 top 100 in state players to Western Kentucky.
This is top recruits from Louisiana.
LINK
With the state of the program, LSU should focus on instate talent. I am sure there are 5 players on our roster these 5 recruits from La could replace.. One is going to ULL, one to South Alabama..
Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:57 am to KiwiHead
One name... Mitchell Robinson 5 star 7 footer from chalmette. He'll be in college next year. These are stars that tiger fans don't hear about but louisiana produces yearly.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:00 am to KiwiHead
There is a ton of basketball talent in Louisiana. But the majority of elite players do not go to LSU.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:10 am to KiwiHead
The point guard from Scottlandville is the real deal. As far as the 7 footer from Chalmette is concerned, I have seen him play and LSU could sure use him. Although he signed with WESTERN Kentucky, from what I understand he may have to go the JUCO route because of academic issues.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:17 am to KiwiHead
Dont forget jacob evans at cincinati
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