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re: Would you pardon Edward Snowden? Chealsea Manning?

Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:17 pm to
Which is why those documents weren't dumped like Wikileaks. He intentionally sought out Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Barton Gellman to vet the documents and publish only what was newsworthy and that would not endanger lives.

Snowden gave up a cushy job, his family and his comfortable life to inform his countrymen of their government's lies and deceit. I can't comprehend how some see him as a villain.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79322 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Which is why those documents weren't dumped like Wikileaks. He intentionally sought out Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Barton Gellman to vet the documents and publish only what was newsworthy and that would not endanger lives.



Of course, we have absolutely no clue which states or intelligence agencies the entirety (or unreleased portions of) the material was exposed to.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Snowden gave up a cushy job, his family and his comfortable life to inform his countrymen of their government's lies and deceit.
He was an unmarried childless IT contractor. He was making good money, but his employment wasn't exactly stable.

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I can't comprehend how some see him as a villain.
That part where he traveled to Moscow and handed over a massive amount of our government's most sensitive secrets and methods to the FSB is what did it for me.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
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6611 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:00 pm to
Double post.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25877 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Snowden gave up a cushy job, his family and his comfortable life to inform his countrymen of their government's lies and deceit. I can't comprehend how some see him as a villain.




The WSJ had a pretty good piece The Fable of Edward Snowden that paints a less noble picture of Edward Snowden. As you may guess by the title, the author does not share the same opinion of Snowden as you do. But it's still a pretty good read about what he did, particularly while was in Russia... you know enemy #1 (regardless of what Trump says)

And for what it's worth, I'm a big fan of keeping the government in check. A healthy suspicion of what the government is doing is always a good thing. But there are right ways and wrong ways to do it.

Also, a lesser point. Don't give me that cushy job crap like he took that job because of its great pay and benefits. He took it with the full intention of stealing and exposing.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72581 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:05 pm to


What a complete load of bullshite. I get it. Snowden is a hero of yours, but don't fricking lie to convince others.
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