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re: Trump's chief of staff acknowledges that Russia was behind DNC hacks

Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:44 pm to
Lol


Everyone in this thread is saying they know but all of them a few days ago said Russia didn't do it

This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:45 pm to
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So you are admitting to the feelings i described in my post. Those feelings are by definition Russian sympathizing.
You are saying you would side with the russian government over ours if the democrats were in power.
Lol. Okay dude
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:47 pm to
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Most people here believe the Russian government is a more positive force for american values than their left leaning countrymen.


Maybe it;s because the only Americans on RT are left wing assholes like Tom Hartman and Ed Schultz.

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In other words they are brainwashed swine... Russian sympathizers bordering on treason.


You should read the entire 25 page unclassified intelligence report especially the portion about RT and the people who are in charge of the Russian propaganda machine comments about the left wing American activists on RT such as Tom Hartman and Ed Schultz.

Then you'll know who are the real Russian sympathizers bordering on treason.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:49 pm to
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So you are admitting to the feelings i described in my post. Those feelings are by definition Russian sympathizing.
You are saying you would side with the russian government over ours if the democrats were in power


The Russians are nationalists. The DNC and RNC are globalists. In a weird way the Russian worldview aligns more with the current America first nationalist trend. I thought the 80's called and wants its foreign policy back? Terms mean different things now as opposed to 30 years ago, and we may find that is not the last inversion with respect to an historical enemy.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:52 pm to
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I can't speak for him, but I'd like a president who didn't side with Putin and Russia over our own Intelligence Community


So you hated it when Obama ignored it during most of his 8 years in office?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:53 pm to
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Everyone in this thread is saying they know but all of them a few days ago said Russia didn't do it


Then it should be easy enough for you to quote just one. I'll make it easy for you. I don't post as often as most people here. So go ahead and quote me.

Are you up to it? Or would you rather just admit you're a liar. I'll take your silence as an admission.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:53 pm to
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So, again, are you okay with foreign influence in our elections, especially a historical enemy, or just okay with this one?
Nope but I am not pissing my pants either.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:53 pm to
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The claim was that Russia "hacked the election." Now you're the one moving the goalposts saying they "influenced" the election which has been happening for decades and is in fact "no big deal." At least not any bigger deal than it ever has been before.



No. That is what I've been saying all along and I had people arguing with everywhere. That is also what the actual claim was and it was what Trump was denying. Nice try.

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Still waiting for proof that they hacked the DNC.





Point proven.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:54 pm to
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Most people here believe the Russian government is a more positive force for american values than their left leaning countrymen.
In other words they are brainwashed swine... Russian sympathizers bordering on treason.
fricking idiotic comment.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:55 pm to
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Without proof, this is just propaganda.


At this point, the burden of proof is on you and you are the one spreading propaganda. After being briefed, even the incoming Trump Administration admits that Russia did it. What do you have? Your skepticism. Fine. Whatever. Why should I argue with you?
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:56 pm to
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LSUTANGERINE


Again...It's not a serious issue.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:56 pm to
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Congrats on people confirming Russia "hacked" the election.

Now what? What do you want?


I'm glad that our incoming president actually admitted the truth about our number one geopolitical adversary. It makes me feel a little safer, to be honest. I don't want a president who doesn't see or won't admit what he is up against. I hope he takes Russia seriously, just like I wanted Obama to take Russia seriously.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:56 pm to
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Everyone in this thread is saying they know but all of them a few days ago said Russia didn't do it


Most people were saying they weren't going to jump to the conclusion that the Russians did it until they saw some actual evidence.

The 25 page unclassified intelligence report didn't provide any evidence.

Even the intelligence agencies admitted they don't know for certain and their judgment that the Russians hacked the election "might be wrong".

So where are you getting your proof from?
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 8:59 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:58 pm to
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One more time. name an independent investigator and let's go.



Because it was the whole IC and there have been no dissenting voices leak, especially when a new administration coming in, I believe it. And, now Trump is saying that he accepts their conclusions. Where is the alternative voice saying it didn't happen now? That is credible, I mean.

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One more time are you pissed Barack the Benevolent used you money to directly impact Israel's election?


I was upset about this, yes. And, I've answered that. Why do you think that is some kind of defense against what Russia has done? It is wrong and Obama has been a disaster, especially related to foreign policy. Why would I affirm ANYTHING that he did? I don't.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:00 pm to
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So you hated it when Obama ignored it during most of his 8 years in office?


Of course. I opposed Obama from 2007 up until this day.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:02 pm to
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That is what I've been saying all along and I had people arguing with everywhere. That is also what the actual claim was and it was what Trump was denying.
No. the claim has been "hacking the election."


Am I wrong? Has proof been presented? Because I read there report and there was no proof in it. If you want me the American people to call into question the results of a free and fair election, which is what this investigation and media hoopla and diplomatic retaliation against Russia are really all about, then you better provide some actual proof. IDGAF a frick about your sources or methods. The claim and it's implications are far too important for me to just nod my head and say sure when all I get is "Trust me, I work for the government." Either it's worth providing the proof or it's not. Put up or shut up. The US government, the IC and the media is playing right into Putin's hand right now.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:02 pm to
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Nope but I am not pissing my pants either.


I'm more concerned about how much impact social media, fake news, orchestrated digital strategy, etc. had on this election. This is only the beginning. Who hacked who really isn't that important.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:05 pm to
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I'm glad that our incoming president actually admitted the truth about our number one geopolitical adversary.


Where are you getting your proof that the truth is the Russians hacked the election because it certainly wasn't from the 25 page unclassified intelligence report?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:06 pm to
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I'm more concerned about how much impact social media, fake news, orchestrated digital strategy, etc. had on this election.
I wonder if you even realize how dangerous this sentiment is
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:07 pm to
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I don't want a president who doesn't see or won't admit what he is up against.


You really don't have a choice as you got outvoted.
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