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re: VMI , West Point, or the Citadel?
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:41 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:41 pm to Jim Rockford
Been around all of them, and only one group consistently dislikes where they came from when they are fresh from commissioning: West Point. This is a serious reply.
Lt's from WP often don't even want to talk about that place. I knew of one guy fresh from WP that wanted to make the Army a career or at least a long term stop. He was made fun of by his classmates. Most of them were already counting the days till they could submit their REFRAD.
Others that are legacies with fathers that went to WP, know they're going to make field grade no matter what, because of the legacy. Hardly provides much motivation to be good in the company grade years. Also the West Point Protective Society as some call it, appears to be a real thing. Example, one guy whose dad was brigade commander in the 82nd, and he knew whatever station he wanted, whatever assignment, etc, was his. Have seen them (not often) disregard what their bosses say because their parent is of a higher rank than the boss. And, have seen senior officers from WP single out other WP officers (who they evaluate) to the point where fairness and objectivity can legitimately be questioned.
Just a strange place. Like the Ivy League it lives on reputation but there are some serious questions about the legitimacy of that reputation. I have been really shocked how many of the recent graduates seemed to dislike the place. Something is wrong up there.
Lt's from WP often don't even want to talk about that place. I knew of one guy fresh from WP that wanted to make the Army a career or at least a long term stop. He was made fun of by his classmates. Most of them were already counting the days till they could submit their REFRAD.
Others that are legacies with fathers that went to WP, know they're going to make field grade no matter what, because of the legacy. Hardly provides much motivation to be good in the company grade years. Also the West Point Protective Society as some call it, appears to be a real thing. Example, one guy whose dad was brigade commander in the 82nd, and he knew whatever station he wanted, whatever assignment, etc, was his. Have seen them (not often) disregard what their bosses say because their parent is of a higher rank than the boss. And, have seen senior officers from WP single out other WP officers (who they evaluate) to the point where fairness and objectivity can legitimately be questioned.
Just a strange place. Like the Ivy League it lives on reputation but there are some serious questions about the legitimacy of that reputation. I have been really shocked how many of the recent graduates seemed to dislike the place. Something is wrong up there.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 1:00 pm to UF
Damn, dude. Sounds like a dysfunctional circus run by military elite.
What a nightmare, if that's the case.
What a nightmare, if that's the case.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 1:33 pm to UF
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Others that are legacies with fathers that went to WP
That's true of anyone with high profile military parent(s).
One of my classmates at A&M is one of the sons (his younger brother went to VMI) of a former Vice Chief of Staff of the Army. His father (then a Major General) was at our commissioning but wasn't even the highest ranking member in the room.
The individual in question will soon take Battalion Command and while being his father's son had some influence, there's absolutely no way he would have survived long in the 160th SOAR without being a damn good officer.
Other posters take note of how neither I or Wolfhound45 have propped up any school or downgraded any school in this thread as opposed to others who have used this thread as an opportunity to trash certain institutions.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 1:35 pm
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