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Construction Estimators: Need a little help figuring Builders Risk

Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3892 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:40 am
I'm trying to set up an estimate template for commercial construction projects, how do you estimate cost for builders risk insurance? Or do you just contact your insurance provider for every estimate?

I already have formula for sales tax, labor burden, general liability, and permit set up. My last piece of the puzzle is builders risk insurance.

Any advice or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3265 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:42 am to
Going to have to be more specific on the types of projects. It varies based on the building.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19367 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:44 am to
do your own work.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166503 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:44 am to
quote:

just contact your insurance provider for every estimate?


how the hell does your insurance guy know the replacement cost of something you are building?
Posted by SetTheMood
The Red Stick
Member since Jul 2012
3182 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I already have formula for sales tax, labor burden, general liability, and permit set up. My last piece of the puzzle is builders risk insurance.


Me thinks you have a few more pieces of the puzzle, Kimosabe.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:53 am to
Make friends with someone in the biz and he/she should be able to give you a round about figure for the rates on a few companies assuming most of the project tend to be similar in nature.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5849 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:32 am to
The cost always changes based on many variables...cost of contract, building type, location, materials, roof systems, etc...

For pricing, we usually exclude builder's risk because in my line of work the owner usually carries this insurance. We may have a deductible by back policy or are forced to carry it. Regardless, We get a quote.

If you really want to estimate this yourself, then our old rule of thumb use to be 16 cents per $100 of construction cost. So on a million dollar project you should carry $1,600 as an estimate.

Hope that helps.
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2402 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:38 am to
Walk down the hall to your CFO and let him figure it out.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166503 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:42 am to
i just came up with a 31 cent rate for east baton rouge parish, non combustible commercial new construction.

construction cost x .0031= premium

you're welcome. could be lowered or raised with a higher deductible and other things.

subject to $375 minimum
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 10:50 am
Posted by pigpickin
Member since Oct 2014
147 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:04 pm to
Are you using Excel? I'd be interested in seeing your template if you are willing to share.
Posted by BLM
ATL
Member since Oct 2011
749 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 1:01 pm to
Just have the owner provide it.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

My last piece of the puzzle is builders risk insurance.


Do you always work in the same geographic area?
Does the owner require flood coverage?

Your agent should be able to put together a reporting form if you will always have the same basic needs and the job values dont vary wildly.

for example $2,000,000 per occurrence and $4,000,000 aggregate.

Nobody can give you a rate without knowing location information and max values at risk.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37347 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:17 pm to
BR is typically a percentage of the overall cost of construction, depending on the type of construction. Your insurance carrier can give you these rates to set as a master formula in your cover sheet. My estimates have a separate tab for builders risk that automatically calculates the cost. It is up to the end user to enable this cell if the owner is not carrying this insurance and wants the builder to do so.
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