Who here actually believes Russia helped Trump?

Russia involved in hacking - Maybe.

Russia involved in WL releases - On some level. I do not think WL is a knowing tool of Russia. I do think Russia and WL are in bed together to some extent. Assange's relationships probably establish that to some degree.

Russia tried to influence election - For sure. Putin underlings went public on Trump being preferable.

Russia actually did influence election - Maybe, but probably not in any decisive manner.

Russia engaged in multi faceted operation to influence US politics, and create dissent and divide in America by exposing MSM and DNC coordination - Yes. I think this was Russia's primary motivation this cycle. And it was at least partially successful.

Russia "hacked" the election or whatever over the top rhetoric media is running with - No.

I think Russia probably did try and hack into DNC emails along with HRC's and her high level staffers. I don't think Russia did this to undermine the elections though, I think they did this because Putin thought she was going to win. He was hoping to have dirt on the incoming president. I also don't think Russia had anything to do with the outcome of the elections. I think the America people who voted were the only factors.

I can't say that I believe it because I don't know how they would actually do it.

I don't believe Russia was involved.

IF they were involved on some level, can you blame them for wanting to stop WWIII with Hillary?

She's a warhawk. Same with McCain & Graham. They are insane people who'd drag us into a nuclear conflict with Russia over "NATO Ally Turkey". They critique Russia's "human rights record" while literally supporting an emerging Islamic dictatorship in Turkey.

They're fricking crazies.

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Do you think they had anything to do with Podesta and DNC leaks?

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The narrative in the moment was that it was NSA guys were pissed at Clinton for her gross breaches of national security.

Geez, yesterday on Meet the Press they were asking about the Exxon guy -- how could he possibly be qualified for SoS?

And I wished Prebus would have said -- "He has got to be better than that cunt Clinton."

What does help mean?

Were those tied to russia involved (some) of the hacks? Yes
Were those tied to russia involved in promoting hacked materials? Yes
Was their aim to disrupt the election? Yes
Did they prefer trumnp to hillary? yes
Did those tied to russia circulate "fake" news? Yes

But did they say, hey, how can we get trump elected? I don't think they did. They were far more successful than they could have hoped though.

Unless there is some evidence that Russia forged the DNC and Podesta emails (there isn't) then it doesn't matter who hacked/leaked them.

Trump supporters for the most part were not impacted by these revelations either way. To the extent that it depressed Dem turnout, it may have been impacting somewhat, but people weren't angry because OF the hack/leak they were angry because of the content.

If exposing the true thoughts and beliefs of the DNC and Clinton campaign through their emails influenced people, regardless of how the emails were exposed, the fault lies with the people in the DNC and Clinton campaign who wrote the emails. Essentially their claim is, "It's the Russian's fault people found out how corrupt we are and how we conspire with the MSM to push our agenda."

Even if they did, it still does not change the fact what was in those emails.

It exposed just how corrupt the msm is. They were/are trying to turn the country into a one party state through propaganda. If it takes Russia or whomever it may be exposing what was actually going on, I'm all for it.

Sometimes things are so corrupt that it does take an outside source exposing it because the msm sure as hell isn't since they're complicit. These people are disgusting human beings.

Let's say they were behind the DNC and Podesta hack at this point what difference does it make? Whether is was Russia, China, or some guys that said hey lets go hack some politicians what difference does it make now?

Nothing changes the fact that they were stupid with security and the actual content of the emails from the evil one herself, to her weird campaign manager, and the DNC itself were shady and disturbing.