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Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:34 pm to
When they started being the news instead of reporting the news is the day they died.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425179 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:36 pm to
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stories about fake news is meant to distract you from the fact that CNN is fake news so that you still consume their fake news and that you still believe their fake news.

you don't even have to call them "fake news"

it's clear that the MSM and DEMs work together

it's clear that in this election, that backfired like a motherfricker

so they are just doubling down to try to discredit all "non-mainstream" news sources to maintain their hegemony, b/c that's their only shot at not having the public realize just how coordinated they are with the DEMs. i said this many times, but if there is one institution who truly came off poorly in this election, it's the mainstream, liberal media

it was just pathetic
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:36 pm to
A child's happiness is priceless, especially on a birthday.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79281 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:51 pm to
Something very strange and unexpected has occurred. I am still trying to understand the totality of it. Trump did not just win an election. He won the culture. Alinsky tactics/media disinformation are immediately identified, ridiculed and turned into a clever internet meme within minutes. It actually fortifies us to get constant hysterical deconstructions of our every move. The more they pour it on, the stronger we get because Americans are profoundly alienated from traditional media.

It's all very subversive. The political Right is subversive. The political Left have been reduced to reactionary punchlines. This is quite a shocking development.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:06 pm to
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CNN is fake news


No. There is a difference between having a liberal or conservative slant on the news and reporting fake news. Fox News has a conservative slant on the news, but it is not fake news. CNN has a liberal slant on the news, but it is not fake news. The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the New York Times is liberal. What makes all of these media outlets legitimate media and not fake news is that they do not literally make up factual allegations out of thin air and present them as fact. If Fox, CNN, WSJ or NYT tells you something did happen, then it's almost certain that it did. If they find out later that it didn't happen, they will at the very least stop saying it did and will likely issue a correction. Now, what spin they put on the facts they report and the opinions they have about it are op-ed and not news, but they are not fake news.

This doesn't mean legitimate media outlets are not misleading. They certainly are. But they don't mislead with actual lies. Choosing what to report and what not to report is one way of misleading that both sides of legitimate media frequently use. When you watch or read these outlets, you do have to be aware of their slant and take their op-ed with a grain of salt, but you can generally depend on allegations of fact to be accurate. As long as you have accurate facts, then you can form an educated opinion no matter what slant the source is putting on the facts with its op-ed.

Fake news, on the other hand, is completely different. Fake news sites literally make up completely false shite and simply claim it is true. The Pope did not endorse Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton did not run a child-sex trafficking network out of a pizza parlor in Washington. No FBI agent, connected with the Clintons or otherwise, murdered his family and killed himself a few days before the election because of some feared fallout over revelations about some kind of wrongdoing. These stories and many more appeared on fake news sites and got many millions of views and shares, more than legitimate media sites on both sides of the political spectrum.

Surveys consistently show that a growing majority of people use social media and websites as their primary source of information. A survey by Buzzfeed (I think) showed that 38% of stories by right-leaning sites and 19% of stories by left-leaning sites contained fake news. This isn't to make the point that the right is less honest than the left, but to point out that even 19% of stories being simply false is appalling. It becomes even more terrifying when you consider that MOST people are relying on these sources as their primary sources of information. When a majority of the electorate are depending on information from sources that are anywhere from 19% to 38% bullshite, there is no way to have an informed electorate.

A democracy is dead if its people do not have accurate information and cannot agree on even the most basic of facts. Not opinion or philosophy, but the facts themselves. We literally do not even have a consensus in this country on what reality is, and anywhere from 19% to 38% of what people think is real is flat-out bullshite made up out of thin air. This is the most alarming thing about the election. Who won is barely relevant compared to this.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15089 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:18 pm to
What the hell is wrong with you?

The Pizza Gate story is bullshite.

CNN and the Times, while they make occasional mistakes, are not "fake news".

Stop it with this crap.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45538 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:24 pm to
The credibility of the mainstream media is zero.

It's funny how they think that they are the only true purveyors of real news. They ARE fake news. They have no more substance or credibility than anyone else.

They sold out their credibility long ago by deciding to be the mouthpiece and defenders of the Democrat Party and its candidates. It's gone and they're not getting it back.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:34 pm to
I saw multiple segments on this topic after Trump won on none other than the nation's leading producer of fake news, CNN

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CNN RUNS SEGMENT SUGGESTING TRUMP WILL PUT MUSLIMS IN INTERNMENT CAMPS

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As the Media Research Center notes, CNN failed to inform viewers that Higbie’s comments from the November 16 broadcast of The Kelly File on Fox News also contained Higbie dismissing any notion that he would ever advocate interment for Muslims. That portion of the interview was conveniently omitted from CNN’s report.

Similarly, Lieutenant General Flynn specifically referred to “radical Islam” as a cancer during different speeches he made several weeks ago. Yet the network has repeatedly edited out this term, instead insinuating that Flynn called all Muslims a cancer.



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