re: How obvious has it been for the last 5 or so years of Miles' stubbornness...

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I'm on a phone my bad. Dunno what that has to do with credibility.

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Neither one of us is gonna budge. Im posting our records and youre refusing to care about them as if something else makes you a top 5 program.
We had top 5 talent. If saban stays we easily win more than miles did but that doesnt mean saban left miles a top 5 program. Youre opinion is that we were a top 5 program . Ive listed 6 programs that easily were better programs than lsu was at the end of 2004.saban left eveything the next coach needed to be a top 5 program. Im not even saying that Miles is the reason we ultimately did reach top 5 status. I believe a bunch of cfb coach couldnt had the same success miles did following saban. I also easily admit that if you switch miles and saban there is no way miles tales lsu to the places saban did.

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Cause he has no problem shitting on anything LSU that doesn't include his idol.

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Its amazing how stating facts is considered shitting in saban and defending miles.

When i say lsu had 2 to 15 finishes during Saban's tenure you see that as shitting on saban and that laughable.

When i say lsu had 3 top 15 finshes in Miles' last 5 years you see that as defending.
Anyone with a brain can easily see that im statimg facts. Im sorry you cant.