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Argument Tip: "Radical Islamic Terrorist" v. "White Supremacist" or "Alt-Right"
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:36 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:36 am
so while pondering over morning coffee and CNN/FB this morning, something hit me. this local media personality who is histrionic about the election and the boogeymen being created commented about Time giving Trump its person of the year award with this:
then CNN rolled a clip discussing Obama's comments about the war on terror yesterday and they did the progressive rhetoric tactic of ensuring that they mention that radicals are only a small % of the total muslim population...and it kind of hit me...progs are literally using the same arguments about "white supremacists" or the "AltRight" that they criticize when a discussion about Islamic terrorism arises. just think about it
-small, vocal minority group within a group? check
-does that group hold extremist views outside of normal society? yes
-is that group responsible for extremist behavior that the normal society would never engage in? yes
-are people using a broad brush for the entire group when focusing on the minority group? yes
-does using these labels by the general group strengthe the group identification and the resolve of the minority group? yes
now, obviously radical jihadists actually do kill people and the effects of the minority groups are very different, BUT, in terms of rhetoric, it's the exact same argument. so when you feel free to discuss this with your progressive friends, feel free to use this argument
quote:
Above is the explanation from TIME magazine for their choice. In my opinion, they really went wayyyyy too easy on both Trump and his most fervent supporters when writing this explanation.
then CNN rolled a clip discussing Obama's comments about the war on terror yesterday and they did the progressive rhetoric tactic of ensuring that they mention that radicals are only a small % of the total muslim population...and it kind of hit me...progs are literally using the same arguments about "white supremacists" or the "AltRight" that they criticize when a discussion about Islamic terrorism arises. just think about it
-small, vocal minority group within a group? check
-does that group hold extremist views outside of normal society? yes
-is that group responsible for extremist behavior that the normal society would never engage in? yes
-are people using a broad brush for the entire group when focusing on the minority group? yes
-does using these labels by the general group strengthe the group identification and the resolve of the minority group? yes
now, obviously radical jihadists actually do kill people and the effects of the minority groups are very different, BUT, in terms of rhetoric, it's the exact same argument. so when you feel free to discuss this with your progressive friends, feel free to use this argument
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
"Radical Islamic Terrorist" v. "White Supremacist" or "Alt-Right"
1 of these is not like the others
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
now, obviously radical jihadists actually do kill people
That's not a detail you can just speed past.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
You are of course correct. One of many ongoing examples of the celebrated double-standard employed by the liberal progressive media in controlling the narrative.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
More locally, look at their treatment of the BLMers.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't think progressives love ISIS though. There issue is not that they can't distinguish between radical-Islam and moderate-Islam it's that they refuse to do so.
If you say there is no difference then the leftist would assume that all Islam is moderate and the far righties would assume all Islam is radical.
We know this is not true.
The same can be said with "white supremacist" except for the fact that white supremacist are not killing people to the level that ISIS is in 2016.
The "alt-right" can be totally taken out of this comparison. The alt-right is simply a collection of weaponized autistic people fighting the great meme war of 2016 on the internet.
If you say there is no difference then the leftist would assume that all Islam is moderate and the far righties would assume all Islam is radical.
We know this is not true.
The same can be said with "white supremacist" except for the fact that white supremacist are not killing people to the level that ISIS is in 2016.
The "alt-right" can be totally taken out of this comparison. The alt-right is simply a collection of weaponized autistic people fighting the great meme war of 2016 on the internet.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Libs are hypocrites. This is known.
The entire racial argument has many similar inconsistencies.
The entire racial argument has many similar inconsistencies.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Because two wrongs make a right. Got it.
so when you feel free to discuss this with your progressive friends, feel free to use this argument
P.S. As usual, this isn't about left vs. right, it's about the establishment creating these ridiculous memes for us to fight amongst ourselves over (divide and conquer).
Why do you continue to fall for these traps?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Radical Islamic Terrorist
Has brown skin
quote:
Alt-Right
Has white skin
That's pretty much all the left cares about concerning your argument. Don't waste their time by pointing out the double standard you evil racist you.
quote:
-small, vocal minority group within a group? check
-does that group hold extremist views outside of normal society? yes
-is that group responsible for extremist behavior that the normal society would never engage in? yes
-are people using a broad brush for the entire group when focusing on the minority group? yes
-does using these labels by the general group strengthe the group identification and the resolve of the minority group? y
Could make a good meme out of this
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
-is that group responsible for extremist behavior that the normal society would never engage in? yes
Is posting frog memes really THAT far from typical behavior?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
Liberals are hypocritics and will never admit to this flaw in their logic
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
You are right, of course!
Also, when using the 'white racist/supremacist' label, it is in conjunction with a parallel argument that whites, as a demographic, are a quickly diminishing segment of the US population. So much so, the argument implies, as to be a 'minority' in the very near future.
This 'white minority' argument contains a kernel of truth in terms of vectoring but the reality is that whites, as a distinct demographic, will still be a majority group for a long time.
IMO, this fallacious 'diminishing argument' is used to augment the strength of the racist/supremacist attack.
The pejorative 'white racist/supremacist' is bad enough and is akin to asking someone 'when did you stop beating your wife like the extremely small percentage of neanderthals in your position do?'
The overarching intent of the 'white racist/supremacist' epithet is to place whites who don't align with a particular political agenda (males, especially) almost immediately in an untenable position of being a racist/supremacist and a diminishing minority slouching toward impotence.
While I am four-square against white nationalist meatheads and their foul racism, I am nevertheless fascinated that so many white people (primarily, but not only, liberals) have fallen for the argument that white people, as a group, are about to fade from moral relevance and perish.
Are whites threatened by open borders that need to be closed/regulated? Yes. Are they attacked and undermined purely on racial and cultural grounds? Yes. Are they fading into oblivion? No.
Finally, are all whites (especially males) racists/supremacists? To those who would believe this, I simply say, Go frick Yourselves.
Also, when using the 'white racist/supremacist' label, it is in conjunction with a parallel argument that whites, as a demographic, are a quickly diminishing segment of the US population. So much so, the argument implies, as to be a 'minority' in the very near future.
This 'white minority' argument contains a kernel of truth in terms of vectoring but the reality is that whites, as a distinct demographic, will still be a majority group for a long time.
IMO, this fallacious 'diminishing argument' is used to augment the strength of the racist/supremacist attack.
The pejorative 'white racist/supremacist' is bad enough and is akin to asking someone 'when did you stop beating your wife like the extremely small percentage of neanderthals in your position do?'
The overarching intent of the 'white racist/supremacist' epithet is to place whites who don't align with a particular political agenda (males, especially) almost immediately in an untenable position of being a racist/supremacist and a diminishing minority slouching toward impotence.
While I am four-square against white nationalist meatheads and their foul racism, I am nevertheless fascinated that so many white people (primarily, but not only, liberals) have fallen for the argument that white people, as a group, are about to fade from moral relevance and perish.
Are whites threatened by open borders that need to be closed/regulated? Yes. Are they attacked and undermined purely on racial and cultural grounds? Yes. Are they fading into oblivion? No.
Finally, are all whites (especially males) racists/supremacists? To those who would believe this, I simply say, Go frick Yourselves.
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