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re: Post your METAL essentials album in ten tracks

Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:18 pm to
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Black Sabbath is the only answer here. The most "essential" metal band ever and it isn't even close. It's obvious most of you have no idea what metal is.


As much as I hate to admit it sometimes, metal has become a highly fluid and diverse genre of music.

The only real definition of heavy metal is that it is a heavier variation of blues-derived rock 'n' roll. If you want, you could include the alternate tuning requirement, but there are some well known metal bands that occasionally play in standard tuning.

Tempo has proven to be insignificant (i.e. contrast doom to grindcore) and lyrical can encompass everything (e.g. religion, politics, literature, philosophy, history, love, human existence, etc.).

Some of these bands might not fit the category of "heavy metal", a subgenre reserved for the forefathers Black Sabbath and a handful of other bands with few extreme elements in their music, but that doesn't necessarily make them non-metal.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:59 pm to
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As much as I hate to admit it sometimes, metal has become a highly fluid and diverse genre of music.



It did that almost immediately. Even the 60s rock acts were experimenting with heavier sounds - heavily, but not exclusively, because of the marriage of the Gibson Les Paul(or SG) with the Marshall.

Was Hendrix "metal"? Probably not, but one has to admit that he was flirting with the line.

2 songs from my list - Born to be Wild and Stone Cold Crazy - obviously, Born to be Wild has "heavy metal thunder" in the lyrics. Anyone who can't hear the birth of speed metal or thrash in Stone Cold Crazy isn't listening. And no one is ever going to argue that either band is a traditional heavy metal act. Ditto for The Beatles' Helter Skelter, as far as hearing what was to be called "heavy metal."

Is anybody talking about Zeppelin being heavy metal in this thread? I may have missed it, but I don't think so. Ditto for Deep Purple. This thread tends to follow the stereotype of metal being Sabbath, then jumping to NWOBHM (primarily Maiden and Priest), THEN jumping to thrash.

There is a lot to consider in between those gaps and even before Sabbath.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 7:01 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:28 am to
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As much as I hate to admit it sometimes, metal has become a highly fluid and diverse genre of music.


I've watched quite a bit of the multi episode metal documentary, and it seems that what you say is true.

I am no expert-far far from it.

That said, is Rammstein considered metal?

Of all the songs listed here I'd say The Zoo is my favorite, although I'd like to hear it without the talk box
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