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re: Joe Mcknight's shooter, Ronald Gasser, released from custody

Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:58 pm to
The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99316 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:05 pm to
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sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot


That's the kind of attitude that gets you killed by an attacker. If someone reaches into my car with the intent of doing me harm, I'm shooting them. Of course, my windows would have never been down and my doors automatically lock, so the aggressor would have already broken my window in this scenario.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:12 pm to
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The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot


This tells me you have no idea of the standards for self-defense, nor do you understand the standards for evaluation in justifying deadly force.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45372 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:48 pm to
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The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot

This is not what the law says.

There are elements that have to be met and there is no way to know the answer based on the info we have available to us.

Investigators will compile evidence and DA will pour over it to make a judgment call based upon a legal outcome whether or not to charge. There is also a chance that the US Attorney will have a look too.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12977 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:55 pm to
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The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot



No, that's not what it means. Using lethal force in a self defense situation does not even require that a gun must be present.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27968 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 5:30 pm to
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The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot

No, your vehicle is considered an extension of your home. If an unarmed man was trying to enter your home, you can legally shoot him. Same thing in this case. From photos of the scene, we know:

Joe illegally parked his car in a travel lane, and left his vehicle to confront the shooter

Joe was acting aggressively, because the passenger side mirror of the shooters car was pushed in

The driver remained seated, and fired shots from within his car


. . . . So, if the driver testified that Joe tried to make a grab for the gun. Game over. No charges. He walks
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 5:48 pm
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