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Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:38 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:38 pm
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Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Nate Silver isnt the wiz kid you made him out to be. no need to defend and apologize. He's totally discredited.




NO.

the clown, buckeye, will be here soon to defend nate plastic.

and then tell you how it wasnt his fault.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32154 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:40 pm to
Just made a thread on this but it's probably to page 3 now

There was a lib who made a not so subtle snarky thread about how many people you know who have landlines to discredit the poll prior to the election
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54249 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Nate Silver isnt the wiz kid


I read one of his articles trying to justify himself. He said if only one in a hundred Trump voters had switched their vote to Clinton, she would have won.

This guy could try to spin a picture of a turd into a rose.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77437 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:42 pm to
Nate has been weighed, he has been measured, and he has been found wanting...
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27995 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Nate Silver isnt the wiz kid you made him out to be.

People defend him by saying he isn't a pollster. Well, OK, then his analysis sucks.

He missed on the 2014 midterms
on Brexit
on Trumps nomination
on the Cubs
on Pres. Donald Trump

He attempts to shape results through his bias. His 15 min is over


Oh, and Frank Luntz.
Posted by tagatose
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
2008 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:53 pm to
Nate Dumbass has been destroyed. He has no credibility anymore.

Can't wait for the heckling and mocking he'll get when he publishes anything.

Dude should look for another line of work like weather forecasting.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38839 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:08 pm to
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Trafalgar


Any possibility this ends up being the name of some erroneous frog god?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21873 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:19 pm to
Nate Poo
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Nate Silver isnt the wiz kid you made him out to be.


If I recall correctly, he tweeted or announced some other way that Trump had won the election around 8:30 CST.

I think he went dark for a while after that.

I haven't slept much since Tuesday night, so it may all be running together.

ETA: Let me be clear, I'm not defending this clown. He is certainly a DNC surrogate.
I'm saying he was the first clown to admit Trump won and he got it wrong. It was almost like Josh Chamberlains last post in 2012.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32133 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:50 pm to
Between the primaries, the World Series, and the election.....Nate Silver is given more second chances to do his job properly than anyone but Pat Shingleton.

His credibility is destroyed.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85420 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 3:00 pm to
Trafalgar also missed Trump by 9 points in Utah - +10 compared to +19 actual. They had Trump +5 in Nevada and he'll lose by 2.4 there, so off by 7.4. Missed Trump by 3 points in Colorado.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 4:11 pm to
I have to stop being stunned at how little people know about or understand statistical analysis and forecasting.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124455 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Nate Silver isnt the wiz kid you made him out to be. no need to defend and apologize. He's totally discredited.
That may be right. Except 2012 and 2016 were two highly unusual elections from a predictability standpoint.

Sandy + the devastating Project ORCA GOTV collapse depressed Romney's national result 2-5 pts. Perhaps Sandy could have been better modeled. Orca collapse was a one-off, and could never have been predicted.

This time, silent Trump support was huge. Skews were predictable based on participants not wanting to be pegged as part of the deplorable, irredeemable, racist, misogynist hoards of uneducated, unwashed Trumpkins. As I posted many times here, examination of NC predictions vs past performance could have been used to re-model results. But such models would likely vary state-to-state and would involve significant artificial manipulation/skews.

IBD actually chose that approach, and turned out (as in 2012) to be quite accurate. So remodeling was doable, but required reworking standard techniques. Given different candidates, standard models would have much more closely tracked results.
Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
12836 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:53 pm to
Ooh ooh...I want to get in on the Nate Pyrite bashing. Yeah his model sucks and he's been ridiculed by economists.
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