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re: 30-06 core lock 150 grain
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:05 pm to Lsuwannabe
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:05 pm to Lsuwannabe
quote:
After watching him almost get up for a few more minutes,
Dude, if that deer keeps twitching, put another round in it. Not just to make sure he doesn't pop up and run away, but to ethically put it out of its misery.
As to the question, try premier core lokts ultra-bonded. More expensive but I like the way they shoot and drop a deer.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 6:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I shoot 180 grain pointed soft points core lokts. All about shot placement my friend.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:01 pm to Catahoula20LSU
Shot a buck last year with 150 grain core lock from my 30-06 from about 40 yards away. Dropped him instantly breaking his front shoulder and stopping in his back shoulder.
Found the shard bullet that mushroomed partially. I'm considering changing to another or a heavier grain. I'm not shooting over 100 or 150 yards, so I'll probably go heavier.
Found the shard bullet that mushroomed partially. I'm considering changing to another or a heavier grain. I'm not shooting over 100 or 150 yards, so I'll probably go heavier.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:40 pm to Fulwar
I got a full bullet from a hog I shot running. It hit the backbone and shattered two vertebrae. Dropped it in its tracks. The bullet fell out when I skinned it.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Too light of a bullet and deer too close.
Shots at close range are demanding on the bullet, always resulting in decreased penetration (compared to the same shot at a further distance) and commonly resulting excessive expansion of the bullet, jacket/core separation and other problems. Result: the bullet doesn't penetrate as deep as it otherwise would. What type of tissue the bullet encounters and angle of the shot play roles as well. On a broadside lung shot, a bullet that passes between the ribs will penetrate deeper than the same bullet that hits bone like a rib or shoulder (especially on the entrance wound). On an angling away shot, not many bullets will exit, especially if the stomach is hit.
What all in the deer did your bullets hit?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:08 pm to The Torch
Had the same damn thing happen a few years ago, he couldn't have been 5 yards from mt tree. Watched him pile up ans stop twitching. Climbed down, no deer ans still havent seen the bastard.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:40 pm to Lsuwannabe
quote:
Last year I shot a deer...35 yards tops broad side. First shot in kill spot, deer drops. Lays there fighting for a few minutes, then finally see blood out of where I shot him. After watching him almost get up for a few more minutes, I decide to put another in him as he is laying facing away from me in kill zone. When skinning him I found both bullets.
Now you know the story, have anybody else ever had a problem with them? I've shot them for years and never had a problem. Could I have a bad box of bullets, I just don't know???
Meh...... Switch to a .22 long rifle,..... one shot behind the ear and eye it is over. Drops them like rock lol...... Core locks are awful. Always go with a run of the mill simple round nose soft point in the ought 6.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:04 am to Lsuwannabe
I've hunted with 150 gr PSP corelokt ammo all my life.. super accurate in my Model 700, and never lost a single animal. I've never had a bullet stay in the animal either. Usually a large exit hole.. Something doesn't sound right about what you're describing...
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:14 am to Lsuwannabe
Here he is in case anyone was wondering. Was shot through lungs from other side. And once from between his front legs from underneath in heart. Notice the lack of exit wound and blood. [/URL][/img]
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:23 am to Lsuwannabe
I'm 40. Hunted my whole life. Shot Winchester, core lock, ballistic tips, you name it. Killed more deer than I can ever remember and never had a problem with penetration. But think I'm going to try the federal this year. Gun was a Winchester model 70 in case you were wondering
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:27 am to CajunCommander
quote:
Is my favorite round.
Mines too.
I bet it was the close distance. Bullet was moving too fast on impact and over expanded.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:43 am to SportTiger1
yall got me skeered now. I had always shot core lokts outta my aught 6 and never had a problem. I've moved to a 270wsm, so logically, ive been shooting 130gr core lokts out of it, and they shoot great.
My hunting ranges anywhere from a 30 yard shot to a 500 yard shot, so i'm thinking i need something more consistent at any distance. Like a copper bullet maybe.
do yall re-sight in after switching from round to round? or just roll with it? I ain't got time for that in the middle of deer season.
My hunting ranges anywhere from a 30 yard shot to a 500 yard shot, so i'm thinking i need something more consistent at any distance. Like a copper bullet maybe.
do yall re-sight in after switching from round to round? or just roll with it? I ain't got time for that in the middle of deer season.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:06 am to SportTiger1
Look man, first and foremost shoot what works for you. If you've shot a shitpile of deer with it and never been dissatisfied than don't change. You're fixing problems you don't even have. Piles upon piles of deer are killed weekly with the core lock in this country. I put my dog on more deer shot with core lock than anything else because far more deer get shot with core locks than anything else. The percentage of fail-to-exits is not high by any stretch.
That said, I would shoot a premium bullet if I was shooting deer with a .270wsm. It's a fast caliber that uses light bullets which isn't really what the core lock is designed for. I would use Nosler partition (if my gun shot them well), barns TSX, Nosler accubond, Nosler ballistic tip, or one of the other top-shelf bullets out there. If you shoot a deer at 20 yard square in the shoulder knuckle you'll need a very tough bullet to drive through.
That's just my option. You should shoot what your gun likes and what you like. Don't go on a witch hunt because of some internet babble. I personally use core locks in my .30-30 without a second thought and have never had a bad experience with that combo. Out of my 06 I shoot 180gr partitions, mainly just because I can.
That said, I would shoot a premium bullet if I was shooting deer with a .270wsm. It's a fast caliber that uses light bullets which isn't really what the core lock is designed for. I would use Nosler partition (if my gun shot them well), barns TSX, Nosler accubond, Nosler ballistic tip, or one of the other top-shelf bullets out there. If you shoot a deer at 20 yard square in the shoulder knuckle you'll need a very tough bullet to drive through.
That's just my option. You should shoot what your gun likes and what you like. Don't go on a witch hunt because of some internet babble. I personally use core locks in my .30-30 without a second thought and have never had a bad experience with that combo. Out of my 06 I shoot 180gr partitions, mainly just because I can.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 10:09 am
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
They hold together at all costs
Weight retention is not something that core lokts are known for, especially at close range.
But I would agree that more deer are killed with corelokts than anything else. The reasons? Price point and availability. However, weight retention, or lack thereof, in the regular old corelokt is an issue.
I also agree nearly 100% that the failure issues are a direct result of velocity. Downrange at say, 2500 fps, they perform well. Within 75 yards or so gets a bit more dicey. Problem is a ton of deer are shot closer than that, and I'd venture to say almost a majority. But that doesn't mean they fail to perform every time within that range or at those velocities. Consistency is also an issue. But when you mass produce the most used round in the world, you're bound to have some quality control issues pop up.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:50 pm to SportTiger1
quote:
That said, I would shoot a premium bullet if I was shooting deer with a .270wsm. It's a fast caliber that uses light bullets which isn't really what the core lock is designed for. I would use Nosler partition (if my gun shot them well), barns TSX, Nosler accubond,
Agree.
Personally, I wouldn't use the Nosler BT in a magnum round like the 270 WSM. I think the NBT is not stout enough for a very high velocity round like the 270 WSM and would expect too much expansion and not enough penetration compared to the aforementioned controlled expansion rounds.
quote:Yup.
do yall re-sight in after switching from round to round?
quote:Sure you do. It doesn't take that long to sight in a gun when changing loads. Do it during the middle of the day when you're taking a break and you're not on the stand.
I ain't got time for that in the middle of deer season.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:17 pm to jimjackandjose
quote:
Core lockt suck
Results like this?
.30-30 170 grain core lokt
.30-30 170 grain core lokt
.270 win 130 grain core lokt
.270 win 130 grain core lokt
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:51 pm to rattlebucket
This isn't meant for anyone in particular, but if you are shooting a scoped rifle at a deer at under 75 yards you should be able to shoot a dang FMJ and kill it quickly. Too many guys love to shoot those high shoulder shots every time and drop them in their tracks, but if it's a close shot shoot them lower in the heart and I guarantee you no deer is running more than 50 yards with a rifle shot blowing the heart up.
As said, bullets are made for different things. You can't have the perfect bullet for every scenario, just pick how to use it the best.
As said, bullets are made for different things. You can't have the perfect bullet for every scenario, just pick how to use it the best.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:08 pm to baldona
Just giving 4 examples of deer shot in boiler room and they all kilt them dead with core lokts. The last pic was a neck shot, which I dont recommend, but it was a small doe that I wanted to take and only gave me a neck shot so I took it. Hit a deer in heart or lungs and they are dead.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:11 am to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:
do yall re-sight in after switching from round to round?
quote:
Yup
I knew the answer but was hoping you'd make me feel okay about being lazy.
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