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Do we as a country suck at solving murders, or are detectives under qualified?

Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:21 pm
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6461 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:21 pm
I've gotten into this podcast called "In the Dark" by APM Reports, and it has me really questioning our detective work as a society. I took a few screen caps to show what I'm talking about.

While NYCs murder rate is literally down half from what it was in the 90's and earlier, we hit a stint in the early 2000's where we literally couldn't solve anything.



Looking at the chart, how do we go from solving nearly 80% in the South Side of Chicago area in the 60's, 70's, and half of the 80's, and now we literally can't solve anything.



Los Angeles seems to be steadily improving.



What the hell happened to Baton Rouge in 1996?



It seems New Orleans has had a very tough time solving murders post Katrina.



You can go check out your parish/county here.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114047 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:23 pm to
Its not that easy to solve a murder, especially if there is no evidence.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103175 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:23 pm to
Because they can't prosecute or convict doesn't mean they aren't solved.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55851 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:23 pm to
I think tv shows like CSI have warped people's perception of how solving a murder works. It's not easy to convict someone.
Posted by dyslexic
Left field
Member since Nov 2010
6492 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:25 pm to
You need to watch The First 48.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:25 pm to
I would imagine its hard to convict plenty of people because no one is willing to get on the stand. I think detectives know who has done it but cant get anyone to cooperate.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

I've gotten into this podcast called "In the Dark" by APM Reports, and it has me really questioning our detective work as a society. I took a few screen caps to show what I'm talking about.



I knew that this podcast was going to pop here after the mention of the parish that has a 12% clearance rate


Pretty good 8-part series. The Sex offender list episode was really well done and is something I have had a ton of beef with.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11581 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

it has me really questioning our detective work as a society


Most smart people don't follow the career path of being a detective.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59757 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:28 pm to
lack of snitches in the USA
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
2038 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:29 pm to
Joe Kenda
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13615 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:31 pm to
How long was Dexter Morgan allowed to roam free? And he was surrounded by detectives everyday. It's a tough job.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4544 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:32 pm to
One is not exclusive of the other, it is the effect of the other.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:36 pm to
Is it possible that as scientific techniques got better and the availability of indisputable evidence of guilt or innocence (i.e. video) became the norm rather than the exception, juries were much less willing to convict and grand juries/DAs less willing to prosecute?

The idea is that if people are used to having evidence available that isn't reliant on human perception or proper handling (i.e. recordings and other electronic evidence), then even if they have evidence (forensics, witness testimony, etc.) in front of them that in the past would've been enough for reasonable people to convict or charge, people now may be less likely to act on that evidence because it lacks the indisputable smoking gun.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38605 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:36 pm to
This guy is retired.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:36 pm to
I'll take it Houston

This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:37 pm to
Do you think it is easier to get away with murder or to catch and convict a murderer? I'll give you a hint, the less established the relationship between the victim and the offender the easier the former becomes.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:39 pm to
Go watch the Amanda Knox doc on Netflix and you'll see just how good the American criminal justice system is compared to other "developed" nations. We're not perfect but we're better than most.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:43 pm to
Drive by's are difficult to solve
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:50 pm to
Great podcast. Just listened to the one you're talking about. Stats are crazy
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16248 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:53 pm to
9 times out of 10 a murder is solved because someone spilled the beans to the popo. If you want to get away with murder, it's very simple. Do it all by yourself...no accomplices and never ever speak about it to anyone.
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