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re: PJ Fleck for LSU: 13-0 & MAC Champs edition (#ReauxTheBeauxt)
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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i know what you mean but c'mon...he's pretty much at "the top" for that program
I understand, but like I said in the other Fleck thread, the MAC coaches du jour that have been hired elsewhere have actually played for the conference title with other not-so-great programs.
He has a great shot to do it this year, but I just think we need to pump the brakes here. Fricking Bill Cubit won a decent share of games in Kalamazoo before Fleck got there.
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:46 am to nvasil1
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but I just think we need to pump the brakes here.
Pump the breaks on Fleck but pay Herman 7-10 million.
In 2011, The cyclones, with herman as o.c., went 6–7 (3–6 Big 12). Not exactly stellar. I'll give you that they beat Oklahoma state.
I'm just lost as to how "herman" get's credit for beating Alabama and now Okie state as an o.c.? However, Fleck, as a head coach, doesn't get credit for his accomplishments, that hasn't been done before, because he coaches at a MAC school. Very perplexing.
I remember when ralph friedgen was consider the offensive genius at ga tech. It didn't translate to Maryland. Although, he did go 10-2 (coach of the year) and 11-3 his first two years there. Friedgen was Herman before Herman.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 10:00 am to nvasil1
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I understand, but like I said in the other Fleck thread, the MAC coaches du jour that have been hired elsewhere have actually played for the conference title with other not-so-great programs.
he looks like he's on the way this year
but even within the MAC, WMU is a bottom feeder. he's not running NIU or CMU or one of the other MAC programs with some history of success. we have to keep that in mind
that doesn't always translate. just look at Franklin and his issues at PSU (Vandy is probably the SEC equivalent so it shows that this kind of momentum may fail even in bigger conferences)
again, I'm saying he's not ready for prime time but he should be the super clear-cut #1 option for any mid-tier BCS program looking for a coach, esp if they're in the midwest. if he can do well there and adapt to the higher pressure/media/booster influence, then i think he's going to be the clear-cut #1 guy for a top 10 BCS program in 3-4 years
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