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re: Stats on Wisconsin loading the box vs Fournette

Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85395 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:35 pm to
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- Carries: 23
- Avg UW defenders in box: 8.08
- Carries w/8 or more in box: 19


Everyone thinks this stat is so atrocious but it is completely overblown. If we're lining up with 2 or fewer WRs, it dictates that we Wisconsin will go big with their defense too. The only way you get guys out of the box is to pull offensive bodies out of the box too. You want to run against 6-7 man fronts, then you've got to go 4-wide and run out of the spread.

I guess the point is that the amount of people in the box isn't an issue on its own if you've got enough offensive players in the box to block them. People freak out about 8 in the box, but the concern should really only be about a front that has more defenders than we have blockers.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20761 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Everyone thinks this stat is so atrocious but it is completely overblown. If we're lining up with 2 or fewer WRs, it dictates that we Wisconsin will go big with their defense too. The only way you get guys out of the box is to pull offensive bodies out of the box too. You want to run against 6-7 man fronts, then you've got to go 4-wide and run out of the spread.


Ummmmm exactly. Get the defenders farther away from the line and LF before the play starts. More room to operate

ETA: And you are also more likely running against more DBs than LBs when you spread them out.
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 3:02 pm to
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If we're lining up with 2 or fewer WRs, it dictates that we Wisconsin will go big with their defense too. The only way you get guys out of the box is to pull offensive bodies out of the box too.


Uh........no shite Sherlock...............exactly.
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I guess the point is that the amount of people in the box isn't an issue on its own if you've got enough offensive players in the box to block them
Me thinks you need to learn why it is that basically every other team in the nation knows you're wrong.

Traffic matters too. Haven't you ever heard of the concept of getting your playmakers in space?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39988 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 3:53 pm to
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People freak out about 8 in the box, but the concern should really only be about a front that has more defenders than we have blockers.


Slackster, I've been pointing this out for years. It will not be understood by most on here. They think the spread magically gets guys out of the box at no cost.
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46122 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Everyone thinks this stat is so atrocious but it is completely overblown. If we're lining up with 2 or fewer WRs, it dictates that we Wisconsin will go big with their defense too. The only way you get guys out of the box is to pull offensive bodies out of the box too. You want to run against 6-7 man fronts, then you've got to go 4-wide and run out of the spread.




lol no shite
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56574 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 5:20 pm to
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guess the point is that the amount of people in the box isn't an issue on its own if you've got enough offensive players in the box to block them. People freak out about 8 in the box, but the concern should really only be about a front that has more defenders than we have blockers.
I appreciate your effort, but you will never convince anyone of this basic truth of football.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 9:36 am to
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the amount of people in the box isn't an issue on its own if you've got enough offensive players in the box to block them.


They only allow us 11. For us, that's not nearly enough to block eight.
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