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I love the movie "Fury" but...
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:49 pm
Why in the frick is Brad Pitt's character, an AMERICAN tank commander, armed with a Sturmgewehr 44, a GERMAN machine gun which has widely been regarded as worthless piece of shite?
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:51 pm to Corch Urban Myers
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:36 pm to Corch Urban Myers
Is this a Yeti tank?
Posted on 9/5/16 at 7:04 pm to Corch Urban Myers
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widely been regarded as worthless piece of shite?
You'll have to explain that one to me.
The only things I know about the StG 44 is that it had a relatively low rate of fire, was better in close quarters, and it came too late in the war to really have a positive effect for the Germans.
Didn't it's design pretty much give birth to the entire class of weapons known as "assault rifles"? Pretty sure I read somewhere that it inspired the AK-47.
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 9/5/16 at 7:44 pm to Corch Urban Myers
Guessing he just picked it up and liked it.
Of course we know its a pos now, but maybe the feeling then was different.
Of course we know its a pos now, but maybe the feeling then was different.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:49 pm to Corch Urban Myers
There were plenty of GI's that picked up MP-40s and used them in combat. I guess it's all in what you like.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:14 pm to Corch Urban Myers
Ideals are peaceful. History is violent.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:26 pm to Corch Urban Myers
Yeah, I noticed that too. Really seemed odd and out of place; a little big for a trophy, and damn hard to find ammo. A Thompson would have been a lot more realistic and believable.
BUT... I think the issue is, "it looks cool".
BUT... I think the issue is, "it looks cool".
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:07 pm to Corch Urban Myers
This is the unrealistic thing you bitch about regarding that movie? Don't worry that the dude was just on top the tank at the end blasting the 50 cal while surrounded by and entire regiment and the way he goes down is a lone sniper.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:30 am to Corch Urban Myers
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In rare instances soldiers will go out of their way to maintain a prized weapon, which the Stg-44 would definitely be.
Possibly the worst thread in OB history.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:11 am to Corch Urban Myers
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Why in the frick is Brad Pitt's character, an AMERICAN tank commander, armed with a Sturmgewehr 44, a GERMAN machine gun
In the course if WWII, combatants from all side FREQUENTLY picked up enemy weapons and would use them. The StG-44 would have been highly sought after.
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widely been regarded as worthless piece of shite?
I have no idea where you've heard this. The StG-44 revolutionized infantry weaponry. It was heavy, but it was by no means a piece of shite. It simply wasnt going g to have any effect on the war at that stage of the game.
Germans picked up Soviet Ppsh's and Svt-40's throughout the war. There are plenty pictures and firsthand accounts out there documenting this. Soviets used German weapons. Americans used them as well. There's always a fascination and novelty factor in an enemy's weapons.
These things happened in WWII and that is absolutely one of the least unrealistic aspects of Fury.
If you really want to complain, complain about the Tiger scene and the final battle scene. They were Hollywood garbage through and through. They used an actual Tiger for that scene as opposed to the mock ups, so I'll give them that at least.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 5:02 pm to Corch Urban Myers
A lot of soldiers picked up weapons that they felt superior to their US counterpart.
The US in WW2 didnt have an assault rifle. So even if it was shitty in the grand scheme of things, it was still new technology that was exciting to the folks on the front.
My issue would've been the lack of ammo availability. You'd literally have to kill a german with a Stur44 to keep shooting. Doesnt seem like a good philosophy to me.
ETA - A 44 is not comparable to a Tommy gun or Greaser. Much better accuracy and longer range capability.
The US in WW2 didnt have an assault rifle. So even if it was shitty in the grand scheme of things, it was still new technology that was exciting to the folks on the front.
My issue would've been the lack of ammo availability. You'd literally have to kill a german with a Stur44 to keep shooting. Doesnt seem like a good philosophy to me.
ETA - A 44 is not comparable to a Tommy gun or Greaser. Much better accuracy and longer range capability.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 9/7/16 at 3:15 pm to Corch Urban Myers
So much wrong with OP. First of all, not a machine gun. Second of all, not a piece of shite. A lot of GIs wouldn't have survived the war had it gotten into the war earlier and been mass produced.
Also, it heavily influenced the Kalashnikov platform, which is pretty much the most successful infantry weapon of the modern era.
The one great point here was that hauling it around would have been impractical because it fired a cartridge that wouldn't be laying around all over the place. With regards to the movie, a guy like that might have just carried it around with a few mags just to be a bad arse and had a Thompson for his daily driver.
Also, it heavily influenced the Kalashnikov platform, which is pretty much the most successful infantry weapon of the modern era.
The one great point here was that hauling it around would have been impractical because it fired a cartridge that wouldn't be laying around all over the place. With regards to the movie, a guy like that might have just carried it around with a few mags just to be a bad arse and had a Thompson for his daily driver.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:26 am to Corch Urban Myers
The STG-44 was the first modern assault rifle. It fired a shortened 8mm Mauser cartridge in 8mm Kurz. The STG-44 was captured in great numbers by the Russians and was the starting point for the development of the AK-47. It was selective Fire with a 30 round detachable box magazine. It had a cyclic rate of fire that could compete with submachine guns like the MP40 and the Thompson but could fire accurately at mid range of 300 to 400 meters. It was NOT widely regarded as " a worthless piece of shite".
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