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re: Storm Tracking Thread: Post Tropical Storm Hermine

Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:25 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:25 am to
RDS, that 10% area in the northern gulf looks a lot more active today too.

If you have a minute, why is something like that less likely to develop (despite what looks like a lot of "stuff" there for an amateur) while a naked LLC from yesterday was still considered likely to become something?

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:27 am to
Any updates on projected path?

I can't understand any of the jargon. I need arrows and lines.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:31 am to
quote:

I can't understand any of the jargon. I need arrows and lines.
quote:

StrongBackWeakMind
Name checks out.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106995 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:31 am to
I just want to say thanks to all our weather posters for keeping is updated. This is always the first place I check for anything.

Also, this may have been answered in the long flood thread but what do you do supernovasky?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38386 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:32 am to
We're a few days away from getting a semi accurate path. As you've seen this thing has been pegged everywhere from Mexico to heading north into the Atlantic. They can't get an accurate path until (if) it actually forms. The question now is will it form. If that happens then they'll have a better idea of where it's going
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 10:33 am
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:33 am to
Damn dude. You crushed that joke.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85423 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:33 am to
quote:

If you have a minute, why is something like that less likely to develop (despite what looks like a lot of "stuff" there for an amateur) while a naked LLC from yesterday was still considered likely to become something?


Time. That area of disturbance is supposed to move into Texas, so development from an unorganized system in that short of a time is unlikely.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:33 am to
quote:

We're a few days away from getting a semi accurate path. As you've seen this thing has been pegged everywhere from Mexico to heading north into the Atlantic. They can't get an accurate path until (if) it actually forms. The question now is will it form. If that happens then they'll have a better idea of where it's going

I gotcha. I was just hoping that 24 hours had cleared it up some.
Posted by supernovasky
Member since Jul 2012
588 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:34 am to
quote:

99L - Potential Gulf Threat
I just want to say thanks to all our weather posters for keeping is updated. This is always the first place I check for anything.

Also, this may have been answered in the long flood thread but what do you do supernovasky?



I'm a statistician that really loves weather :)
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:34 am to
quote:

I just want to say thanks to all our weather posters for keeping is updated.
Ditto.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106995 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:38 am to
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:44 am to
Your hurricane structure diagram.

Northern hemisphere. Winds entering a LP area, due to Coreolis, cause a counterclockwise rotation. Due to location on earth's surface are "deflected" to the right which sets-up this rotation; my understanding anyway. Your diagram indicates "storm rotation clockwise".

Is this in reference to the cirrus outflow shield?

I'm confused?
Posted by supernovasky
Member since Jul 2012
588 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:48 am to
quote:


99L - Potential Gulf Threat
Your hurricane structure diagram.

Northern hemisphere. Winds entering a LP area, due to Coreolis, cause a counterclockwise rotation. Due to location on earth's surface are "deflected" to the right which sets-up this rotation; my understanding anyway. Your diagram indicates "storm rotation clockwise".

Is this in reference to the cirrus outflow shield?

I'm confused?


Notice that the low level winds are entering counterclockwise in the correct direction. The upper outflow exits in a clockwise direction.

This is actually why you might hear some people say, "models place an anticyclone over it" in reference to it potentially strengthening at times. Upper level anticyclonic flow helps vent the storm.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:49 am to
surface low rotates counterclockwise, outflow aloft rotates clockwise.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85423 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:49 am to
I think it is just a typo. The red arrows clearly show counterclockwise rotation so I'd imagine it was a holdover from a diagram on the southern hemisphere.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:53 am to
Anyone want to give a quick update? Still need to wait a few days before we know anything? This thing just needs to die already that would be the best thing for everyone.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:53 am to
Based on my understanding of hemisphere wind flows, I think "a typo" for this diagram must be correct. The diagram properly shows the lower and midlevel counter clockwise rotation of the storm for northern hemisphere, but not the "storm rotation" comment.

I did learn something new in regard to how shear affects outflow.
Posted by chicano12
Member since Jun 2010
994 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:56 am to
100 pages
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
12929 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:58 am to
Still too early to predict that with any certainty
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24641 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Anyone want to give a quick update?


System is toast. Sorry for the let down. This will not become a hurricane and likely not even a tropical storm. Go back to your business. So many disappointed I'm sure.
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