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re: 100 Best Films of the 21st Century, BBC Culture

Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:41 pm to
Ok, this article popped up on yahoo for me to read and I thought that was funny.

5 Movies the Critics Love But Are Actually Complete Garbage

Article is from the Federalist.

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The BBC recently asked 177 film critics from around the globe to create a master list ranking the greatest films of the twenty-first century. It’s awful.


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Isn’t “Training Day” a more compelling movie than, say, Spike Lee’s “25th Hour” — a fine film with a fine lead actor based on a fine book that is most definitely not the 26th best movie of this century. Why isn’t Ben Affleck’s “The Town” or “Gone Baby Gone” on the list, but two pretentious, pseudo-intellectual Lars von Trier films do make the cut? Why are there no Lord of The Ring movies on the list, when they are surely as well done as “Pans Labyrinth?” Are fan favorites like “Gladiator,” “The Revenant,” or even “Best in Show” (with a 96 percent on Rotten Tomatoes) less deserving than middling efforts like “Before Sunset” or “Requiem for a Dream”?
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:22 pm to
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Isn’t “Training Day” a more compelling movie than, say, Spike Lee’s “25th Hour”

No. Hell, the final 30 minutes of 25th Hour are among my favorite 30 minutes of any movie, and its compelling as hell. Also, its a crime movie that almost perfectly captured what post 9/11 NYC felt like.

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Why isn’t Ben Affleck’s “The Town” or “Gone Baby Gone” on the list, but two pretentious, pseudo-intellectual Lars von Trier films do make the cut?

Because Gone Baby Gone is a mediocre movie with "shocking" twist that managed to shock no one. I do like The Town a lot, and hate Lars von Trier even more. So I'll give them that. Lars von Trier is second only to Haneke in directors whose completely hateful worldview I'm pretty much done with. I get it. You hate being alive and you resent others' joy. Duly noted.

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hy are there no Lord of The Ring movies on the list, when they are surely as well done as “Pans Labyrinth?”


Because they aren't.

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Are fan favorites like “Gladiator,” “The Revenant,” or even “Best in Show” (with a 96 percent on Rotten Tomatoes) less deserving than middling efforts like “Before Sunset” or “Requiem for a Dream”?


I've got nothing against fan favorites, and in fact argued in favor of them, but there's nothing middling about Before Sunset or Requiem for a Dream. The experience of seeing Requiem in the theater absolutely wrecked me. The whole Before trilogy is one of the most realistic takes on love/relationships put on film. I'm a huge fan, and watch them often.

But this goes to one of my major points: fans of mainstream films tend to be the provincial ones, not film critics. Nearly every film critic will advocate for some mass consumerist Hollywood films, while almost none of these Critics Are Snobs fans will consider a foreign film or a slower paced indie. As a reminder, critics RAVED about The Avengers and all three Toy Stories, for example.

Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:15 am to
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Are fan favorites like “Gladiator,” “The Revenant,” or even “Best in Show” (with a 96 percent on Rotten Tomatoes) less deserving than middling efforts like “Before Sunset”


This writer, David Harsanyi, is an imbecile. He is not a film critic. To expect 177 films critics who did not collaborate, but independently submitted lists to provide a canon of films that match one's own specific tastes is idiotic. It's also be boring as hell. My favorite movie is on this list, but I think many of the rest don't deserve to be there. I'm not mad about. I have my own tastes and preferences.

The ballots:
The Ballots of 177 Critics

I like to read these to remind myself that 177 critics didn't just come together and collectively decide that TDK is better than City of God; shite just added up that way.

Lists are fun. Idiots are obnoxious.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:27 am to
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Why isn’t Ben Affleck’s “The Town”


Because The Town was not great! I'm not saying it sucks, but it was not great. If we are going to talk crime films since 2001 set in the NE, I think The Drop is a superior film to The Town.
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